Wikivoyage:Votes for deletion/August 2019

Saho
Short depiction and not create page standard.--✈ IGOR ／ ✉ TALK?!  ．WIKIVOYAGER ! 05:37, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Moved from Votes for undeletion, because it was obviously intended to be here. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:52, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, merge, or redirect. We generally try to avoid deleting articles about real places on Wikivoyage. Instead we either keep them, merge with a better article, or redirect to a better article. I'm personally not sure what is the best option at this point. Also, just so you know in future, you should add to pages you nominate for deletion. Thanks! --Comment by  Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 12:53, 18 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect both. Pashley (talk) 16:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Where would you redirect it? --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 17:48, 18 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. We're developing a travel guide. Nurg (talk) 10:26, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. I was looking at the Wikinews deletion nominations and realized about this one here. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 00:01, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Nurg as I'm not seeing any strong reason to remove this article now. Sure, it's not amazing at the moment, but we need to give an article like this time to improve. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 00:03, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Result &mdash; two want to keep, one wants to redirect, and one wants to delete &mdash; the nominator. There is not obvious consensus, but in terms of our standards, delete is obviously out of the question. We don't delete real places. The redirect vote was for two nominations and does not include a rationale. Therefore, consensus to me seems to go with "keep." --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 00:05, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Walla Walla (Alaska)
This is maybe one building, if it is still there at all. A search of GNIS says it is or was a roadhouse on the trail to Nome. As far as I can tell it has never been anything more than that, and given that I can find no current information whatsoever it is likely that it is no longer in operation as a roadhouse (most people fly rather tha use dog sleds these days so that's not surprising). There is simply nothing to say about this place so it shouldn't have a page. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:52, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Our standard is, "don't delete real places," as we say. We instead redirect such articles to a related destination. Therefore, I vote redirect. --Comment by  Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 21:55, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to where? Nurg (talk) 08:41, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The region name or Iditarod Trail. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 19:44, 13 August 2019 (UTC)


 * The one exception to the "don't delete real places" rule is page creation vandalism for tiny "dots on the map" of no interest to travellers, which this place handily qualifies as. Speedy delete. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 22:08, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the page creator was clearly not a PCV. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 22:33, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know that it matters what the page creator's intentions were. The dot-on-a-map rule not only exists to deter page-creation vandals, but also because redirects are only useful inasmuch as they're plausible search terms. For instance, a small town that doesn't exactly have nothing to offer a traveller, but which doesn't have enough to fill out an entire article, is a good candidate to be converted to a redirect. But a ghost town consisting of two very likely abandoned buildings, with no amenities or points of interest, that's not on a major route and that's exceedingly difficult even to find information about on Google? No one is going to be searching for that. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:21, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You're forgetting, however, its apparent connection to the Iditarod Trail, as made clear in the article, which makes it more important. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 21:04, 14 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. Though I wouldn't be opposed to a redirect to a destination higher up the hierarchy. Gizza ( roam ) 22:35, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect, unless it truly has disappeared without a trace, in which case, delete. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:13, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. The only information in the article is a link to the Iditarod Trail, which is an outline itinerary which only lists Walla Walla as a point at "mile ?". There is nothing shown on the map, only a dotted line for the trail passing the river (assuming geo is correct), so I doubt that there is anywhere to sleep, or do anything else. Alaska Airlines only serve Walla Walla in Washington, Commons has no photos of here, and WP doesn't have an article. We are the first link on Google when I search for "Walla Walla Alaska". AlasdairW (talk) 20:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: Is there anything about Walla Walla, AK on the internet at all? --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 20:58, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Judging from the map at Iditarod Trail and Google Maps, Walla Walla should be at 64.553573, -162.481001 (copied from a Google Maps pinpoint). Unfortunately, imagery there is severely limited. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 21:03, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Bingo. Looks like I found a building or two on ZoomEarth. But we don't need an article, if that really is Walla Walla. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 21:05, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. I went to that coordinates on Google Maps and I couldn't see anything but grass and a few white spots. I don't know if the white spots are buildings, but even if they are, we still don't need an article since even Google Maps doesn't mark out that place. Also, I searched "Walla Walla alaska" on Google and beside the Wikivoyage page, there's no information at all and everything the search engine gave me is about the Walla Walla in Washington. Then, I did another search at Wikipedia and there's not even a mention of this place. So obviously, there's no use at all for keeping. (Edit: I don't see any connection between Walla Walla and Iditarod, since even the Iditarod trail's official website doesn't give any mention to Walla Walla.) The SmileKat40! (*Meow* chat with me! | What did I do?) 07:38, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I take that back, I just found a mention of Walla Walla on the Iditarod Trail's official website. It said, there's a cabin at Walla Walla if the weather is bad. I still don't see any reason for keeping considering the difficulty to get information about it and probably there's just a cabin or two in Walla Walla for the dog sled race. The SmileKat40! (*Meow* chat with me! | What did I do?) 07:50, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * It exists so don't delete, but it is insignificant so redirect to Iditarod Trail. Pashley (talk) 14:52, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't care whether it gets deleted or gets redirected, but I don't agree with any of the suggested redirect targets. Since the nearest town for which we have an article is Elim, combined with the fact that Walla Walla is in the former Elim Indian Reservation, if we do redirect, point it to Elim. Nurg (talk) 09:41, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * We still have a day to go, but I would say that consensus is to delete the article, and I will willingly go along with that, per satellite imagery and other research that has been conducted. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 19:09, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Looks like it's just some cabin out in the woods that also serve as a shelter during bad weather and checkpoint for Iditarod Trail, not an actual place that you can sleep in. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:52, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Result: deleted. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 10:13, 31 August 2019 (UTC)