Wikivoyage:Travellers' pub/2024

Do you use Wikidata in Wikimedia sibling projects? Tell us about your experiences
Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English.

Hello, the Wikidata for Wikimedia Projects team at Wikimedia Deutschland would like to hear about your experiences using Wikidata in the sibling projects. If you are interested in sharing your opinion and insights, please consider signing up for an interview with us in this Registration form. Currently, we are only able to conduct interviews in English.

The front page of the form has more details about what the conversation will be like, including how we would compensate you for your time.

For more information, visit our project issue page where you can also share your experiences in written form, without an interview. We look forward to speaking with you, Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 08:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I hope you are aware of the standard ways we use Wikidata here, in addition to creating the language and in other projects links:
 * POI listings include a wikidata parameter, which creates links to the en-wp article and the Wikidata item, and adds coordinates if they aren't explicitly given. It also allows linking the listing by its Q code, to lessen the link rot risk. I often use the WD link to find WP articles in other languages, and perhaps some info given in the WD item itself, such as municipality (to know which WV article the POI belongs to).
 * Wikipedia in Swedish, where I also edit, uses Wikidata extensively for infoboxes. Many issues have been discussed and some of them partly solved. I am not an expert, but unless people from there have been in contact, you surely want to have an interview with some of the people active at Wikidatafrågor, such as Larske.
 * –LPfi (talk) 07:11, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Reusing references: Can we look over your shoulder?
Apologies for writing in English.

The Technical Wishes team at Wikimedia Deutschland is planning to make reusing references easier. For our research, we are looking for wiki contributors willing to show us how they are interacting with references.


 * The format will be a 1-hour video call, where you would share your screen. More information here.
 * Interviews can be conducted in English, German or Dutch.
 * Compensation is available.
 * Sessions will be held in January and February.
 * Sign up here if you are interested.
 * Please note that we probably won’t be able to have sessions with everyone who is interested. Our UX researcher will try to create a good balance of wiki contributors, e.g. in terms of wiki experience, tech experience, editing preferences, gender, disability and more. If you’re a fit, she will reach out to you to schedule an appointment.

We’re looking forward to seeing you, Thereza Mengs (WMDE)


 * Thereza Mengs (WMDE), the English Wikivoyage does not use refs. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:41, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Informing you about the Mental Health Resource Center and inviting any comments you may have
Hello all! I work in the Community Resilience and Sustainability team of the Wikimedia Foundation. The Mental Health Resource Center is a group of pages on Meta-wiki aimed at supporting the mental wellbeing of users in our community.

The Mental Health Resource Center launched in August 2023. The goal is to review the comments and suggestions to improve the Mental Health Resource Center each quarter. As there have not been many comments yet, I’d like to invite you to provide comments and resource suggestions as you are able to do so on the Mental Health Resource Center talk page. The hope is this resource expands over time to cover more languages and cultures. Thank you! Best, JKoerner (WMF) (talk) 21:34, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Vote on the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee

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Hello all,

I am reaching out to you today to announce that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter is now open. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll now through 2 February 2024. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.

The current version of the U4C Charter is on Meta-wiki with translations available.

Read the charter, go vote and share this note with others in your community. I can confidently say the U4C Building Committee looks forward to your participation.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 18:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

FYI: The Ideal Vacation Length for Peak Relaxation, According to Experts
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-ideal-vacation-length-for-peak-relaxation-according-to-experts —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:05, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * This makes sense. I like short trips, I have a 5-day one planned this year actually. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 17:23, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm coming off of a month long vacation and I definitely agree that the novelty wears off after a while and it becomes pretty tedious and exhausting. I'd probably do more 9 or 10 day trips after going through that. I had fun nonetheless but at a less optimal rate I guess. Cyali (talk) 04:27, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Last days to vote on the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee

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Hello all,

I am reaching out to you today to remind you that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) charter will close on 2 February 2024. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.

The current version of the U4C charter is on Meta-wiki with translations available.

Read the charter, go vote and share this note with others in your community. I can confidently say the U4C Building Committee looks forward to your participation.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 17:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * If you've made 300 edits (total, not just here) and meet a few other smaller requirements, you should be eligible to vote. You can check at https://meta.toolforge.org/accounteligibility/72 if you're not sure.
 * Please vote. Votes are secret; the optional comments are public. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Announcing the results of the UCoC Coordinating Committee Charter ratification vote

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Dear all,

Thank you everyone for following the progress of the Universal Code of Conduct. I am writing to you today to announce the outcome of the ratification vote on the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee Charter. 1746 contributors voted in this ratification vote with 1249 voters supporting the Charter and 420 voters not. The ratification vote process allowed for voters to provide comments about the Charter.

A report of voting statistics and a summary of voter comments will be published on Meta-wiki in the coming weeks.

Please look forward to hearing about the next steps soon.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 18:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

FYI: Vacation Ruined: Grandma Just Dissipated Into Trillions Of Atoms Inside The Airport’s Full Body Scan Machine
https://clickhole.com/vacation-ruined-grandma-just-dissipated-into-trillions-of-atoms-inside-the-airports-full-body-scan-machine/

Stay safe out there. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Souinds like Scotty beamed her aboard the Enterprise. Mrkstvns (talk) 19:32, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Weighing passengers
I see that Finnair is starting to weigh their passengers (and baggage). Does this seem invasive to you? Can "by the pound" fares be far behind?

See article from BBC. Mrkstvns (talk) 17:13, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


 * They need the figures (and they are not the only ones doing this). Either estimates provided by authorities or their own. I suppose the figures differ between flights (and classes), so using real-world sample-based estimates is better than having to guess what carry-on luggage weights and whether the passengers differ from the population averages. The better the estimates, the less margins they need, which means more cargo or less fuel per flight, which probably is better for the climate.
 * If people get used to scales, then they could of course be used also for discrimination (whether you count by-pound fares as such or not), but I hope laws are strict enough to hinder that.
 * –LPfi (talk) 18:08, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It is not at all invasive. It is a voluntary anonymous survey of the weight of passengers with their carry on baggage. They need to do this to update the estimated weight of 100 passengers on a plane. Although there are other sources of people's weight, they don't include the clothes and bags that they take on the flight. This is not about people's weight, the average weight might have increased because more people are taking a full water bottle onto the plane.
 * There are a few flights in very small aircraft where all the passengers are routinely weighed, and this may to be used to decide seating positions. AlasdairW (talk) 19:19, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I encountered the small aircraft situation about 15 years ago on a small turboprop flying out of Bocas del Toro, Panama. Since the plane only seated about 10 passengers, presumably a couple chunky passengers sitting together could seriously affect the plane's balance. I wouldn't think that would matter with the large aircraft flown by an airline like Finnair. I have not heard of other large airlines weighing passengers... Mrkstvns (talk) 19:31, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Here are reports of Air New Zealand doing this in 2023 and 2003. More controversially, Samoa Air was reported in 2013 to be introducing weight based fares. AlasdairW (talk) 20:47, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I had a really uncomfortable 2-hour flight recently where my neighbor's bulk pushed into my middle seat, and I was aching for a while afterwards (his family for some reason booked seats away from him). This is literally the first time I have experienced this, and it was a shortish flight on a small aircraft, but I feel weighing in passengers and providing larger seats for those who need it is the way to go Andrewssi2 (talk) 21:32, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That would make sense in an egalitarian society, but in the world of capitalism, the larger seats go to those willing to pay the most, not those whose girth requires it. Mrkstvns (talk) 21:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * But not every country is capitalist. SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 21:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't care about the commercials so much. Already some airlines allow you to book an empty seat next to you. I recently flew Asiana long haul, and they have extra space seats in economy that you can pay a couple hundred dollar extra and don't allow anyone else to take them if empty - great value for me. Andrewssi2 (talk) 22:02, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't find this invasive at all. In some cases, some plus-sized passengers might need larger seats given how tiny airplane economy seats can be (more than enough for me to put my feet up but not for most people). --  SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 21:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

FYI: Expedia to Eliminate 1,500 Jobs as Travel Growth Moderates
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-26/expedia-to-eliminate-1-500-jobs-as-travel-growth-moderates —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:01, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Report of the U4C Charter ratification and U4C Call for Candidates now available

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Hello all,

I am writing to you today with two important pieces of information. First, the report of the comments from the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter ratification is now available. Secondly, the call for candidates for the U4C is open now through April 1, 2024.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members are invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

Per the charter, there are 16 seats on the U4C: eight community-at-large seats and eight regional seats to ensure the U4C represents the diversity of the movement.

Read more and submit your application on Meta-wiki.

On behalf of the UCoC project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 16:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Wikimedia Canada survey
Hi! Wikimedia Canada invites contributors living in Canada to take part in our 2024 Community Survey. The survey takes approximately five minutes to complete and closes on March 31, 2024. It is available in both French and English. To learn more, please visit the survey project page on Meta. Chelsea Chiovelli (WMCA) (talk) 00:21, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Global ban proposal for Slowking4
Hello. This is to notify the community that there is an ongoing global ban proposal for User:Slowking4 who has been active on this wiki. You are invited to participate at m:Requests for comment/Global ban for Slowking4 (2). Thank you. Seawolf35 (talk) 19:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)


 * They have made just one edit here, are indefinitely blocked on five projects and a hasty look shows they might have deserved it. –LPfi (talk) 20:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this ban might be a negative for Wikisource but it is probably for the better for the wider WMF world. SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 06:13, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2024 Selection

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Dear all,

This year, the term of 4 (four) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Board Governance Committee created a Board Selection Working Group from Trustees who cannot be candidates in the 2024 community- and affiliate-selected trustee selection process composed of Dariusz Jemielniak, Nataliia Tymkiv, Esra'a Al Shafei, Kathy Collins, and Shani Evenstein Sigalov [3]. The group is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2024 trustee selection process, and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:


 * May 2024: Call for candidates and call for questions
 * June 2024: Affiliates vote to shortlist 12 candidates (no shortlisting if 15 or less candidates apply) [5]
 * June-August 2024: Campaign period
 * End of August / beginning of September 2024: Two-week community voting period
 * October–November 2024: Background check of selected candidates
 * Board's Meeting in December 2024: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2024 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page, and make your plan.

Election Volunteers

Another way to be involved with the 2024 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page.

Best regards,

Dariusz Jemielniak (Governance Committee Chair, Board Selection Working Group)

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Results#Elected

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes:2023-08-15#Governance_Committee

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] Even though the ideal number is 12 candidates for 4 open seats, the shortlisting process will be triggered if there are more than 15 candidates because the 1-3 candidates that are removed might feel ostracized and it would be a lot of work for affiliates to carry out the shortlisting process to only eliminate 1-3 candidates from the candidate list.

MPossoupe_(WMF)19:57, 12 March 2024 (UTC)


 * If anyone is curious what I think would be helpful in Board members, I've put a list of questions at m: User:WhatamIdoing/Board candidates. It always amazes me that some editors believe that fixing thousands of typos on Wikipedia would make a person qualified to set a multi-million dollar budget and lead 600 employees.  IMO we need volunteers who understand financial statements and have some general idea of employment law.  If you've got some business-related experience and are willing to put in a few hundred unpaid hours for the next three years, please consider volunteering. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:31, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * @Trizek (WMF), is this hoped to be one minute or so? Or is this expected to be longer than the previous ones even if everything goes perfectly? WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:47, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * We can't know in advance. This time, some scripts took longer than expected to execute, and the read-only happen a donen of minutes after 14:00 UTC. It lasted 3 minutes though. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 16:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Feedback invited on Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle

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Dear community members,

The Community Affairs Committee (CAC) of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees invites you to give feedback on a draft Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle. This draft Procedure outlines proposed steps and requirements for opening and closing Wikimedia Sibling Projects, and aims to ensure any newly approved projects are set up for success. This is separate from the procedures for opening or closing language versions of projects, which is handled by the Language Committee or closing projects policy.

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You can also share information about this with the interested project communities you work with or support, and you can also help us translate the procedure into more languages, so people can join the discussions in their own language.

On behalf of the CAC,

RamzyM (WMF) 02:26, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * It would probably be helpful if some of the folks who were involved in bringing Wikivoyage to the WMF could look at the page and see whether this process makes sense. The process for opening a new project is meant to standardize the process for any future groups that want to be under the WMF's umbrella. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:52, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

HFD
Happy Father's Day. @SHB2000, @Ikan Kekek :-) Lionel Cristiano (talk) 00:05, 16 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I think you've mistaken my age – I'm a uni student. -- SHB2000  (t &#124; c &#124; m) 00:30, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's great to be a father at a young age. Lionel Cristiano (talk) 06:21, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It is, but I'm not a father (I'm ace and single, for the record) – but I do agree with your sentiment and happy Father's day to any father! -- SHB2000  (t &#124; c &#124; m) 08:39, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not a father, but HFD to whomever is. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:03, 16 June 2024 (UTC)