Wikivoyage:Tourist office/Archives/2019/August

USA Travel Visa for Asian Indians?
Hi, I was wondering what is the process to get an American visa for travel purpose. I and some friends are planning to travel mountains areas and other city is the USA>

Asked by: VikramRana14394 (talk) 20:17, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Start by reading United States of America. If that doesn't make sense, then come back and ask supplementary questions.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:25, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Tonga?
I'll be in Fiji in mid-October and I'm debating whether to do 2-3 days in Tonga before flying to Auckland. My alternative plan is to skip Tonga and spend more time in Fiji and Auckland.

Has anyone been to Tonga recently? And how many days would be enough? (I won't be diving or snorkelling at Fiji/Tonga, focusing more on nature and civilization). Is 3 days in Tonga too much?

Asked by: OhanaUnitedTalk page 02:59, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I can't help with Tonga (or Fiji) at all, but I wouldn't say extra time in Auckland is particularly worth it, unless you have friends/family there. It's not the most interesting city, though is a good base for trips out of town. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:28, 13 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I would say it depends on what you want to do. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 22:04, 13 August 2019 (UTC)


 * If I'm going to Tonga, I will still have 3 days in Auckland. But I have heard from people that when they visited 10+ years ago, Tonga doesn't have much to see and 2 days are more than sufficient to see most things there. If I do Tonga, it will be 3 days each in Fiji, Tonga and Auckland. Skipping Tonga would mean 5 days in Fiji and 4 days in Auckland. OhanaUnitedTalk page 02:48, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If I were you, I would consider whether I am a city person or more interested in nature, and then choose accordingly. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 20:11, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Postage for refunds
I bought a train ticket via the Northern App. The ticket was bound to a specific service, however, the train was cancelled, resulting in a delayed arrival. There is a refund application form exclusively for mobile purchases. The whole process is really tedious. The problem is I have left the UK, but I am still abroad. Northern wants me to print out the form and send it physically to their office PO in Edinburgh. Ignoring the fact that I don't have easy access to a printer right now, am I really supposed to pay the postage from another country to the UK? --195.159.231.26 18:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Have not gone through the process but the web page looks like it should work online. --Traveler100 (talk) 19:03, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

RENFE AVE Tickets for a group of 12
RENFE's site lets you buy up to 9 tickets. Most travel agency websites that deal with RENFE tickets also only allow 9 tickets to be purchased. A 30% return discount exists for groups of 10-25. RENFE group sales office only sells to groups of more than 25. Where do I buy RENFE group tickets for a group of 12? --2601:142:1:C8EB:81A1:C651:209:8218 03:06, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Asked by: 2601:142:1:C8EB:81A1:C651:209:8218 03:08, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Visiting Yellowstone National Park
Hi everyone, we (my wife and myself) would like to visit Yellowstone National Park in the U.S.A, and from Wales it looks like the cheapest and easiest way to fly from Cardiff to Denver with a stop at Charles de Gaulle. I've been looking for transport from Denver to Yellowstone, but I'm having difficulties finding transport maps. I've tried consulting Google Maps, but it's not able to find a single route. The Wikivoyage article on Yellowstone National Park mentions Denver airport, but doesn't specify which train/bus lines to take from there to reach Yellowstone. If there are Wikivoyagers from the Rocky Mountains here, can you please help with maps and routes? I'm sorry if this is a trivial or silly question, but I've been searching for hours and don't really get forward. It would be our first time visiting the U.S.A and we're pretty flexible, so if other airports provide easier access to Yellowstone National Park, we'd be open minded (if the flights are not ridiculously expensive). 2001:630:E4:4220:97A:D96C:C413:9A65 12:45, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Asked by: 2001:630:E4:4220:97A:D96C:C413:9A65 12:45, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, croeso i Wikivoyage! I can't offer much help, as I don't know the area either, but reading the Yellowstone article, the only mentions I see of Denver airport are in the context of flights from there to the smaller, regional airports listed in the article. Those would, I think, be quicker than overland, as Denver to Yellowstone is over 500 miles. Hope a Wikivoyager with more local knowledge comes along soon. Best wishes, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 13:45, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick response! I saw the listings of the regional airports you mentioned, but they also don't give train/bus direction to the Yellowstone National Park. I'm a bit surprised that information on reaching such a prominent attraction as the Yellowstone National Park is so hard to find, especially in comparison to our own Lake District for example. Or is it intentionally made difficult/vague to protect the natural treasures from being overrun by too many tourists? 2001:630:E4:4220:97A:D96C:C413:9A65 14:16, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Salt Lake City is closer than Denver. You should possibly consider hiring a vehicle to get to Yellowstone itself. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:22, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input, ShakespeareFan00. I had checked Salt Lake City, but unlike Denver there are no direct transatlantic flights, and the additional stop makes Salt Lake City an expensive option. Regarding vehicle rental as suggestion, neither of us is in the possession of a driver's license which is required in the U.S.A, and we don't have experience piloting a motorized vehicle ourselves (and probably a national park isn't the easiest place to learn to drive... also very stressful!). Hiring a vehicle + driver for a week would likely cost a fortune, so that's out of our budget range. 2001:630:E4:4220:97A:D96C:C413:9A65 15:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * As a by the by, Delta Airlines offer direct flights from Heathrow to SLC.ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:54, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I've never been there, but I'm pretty sure you will need transportation in the park. Have you looked into (1) flight to Denver, (2) bus to Salt Lake City, (3) bus tour from Salt Lake City? If you find a bus tour, please add the info to our articles. Thanks. Ground Zero (talk)
 * Public transport coverage is not too impressive in the U.S. (especially for non-city destinations) and people indeed are usually advised to rent a car. As mentioned in United_States_without_a_car, Delta seems to fly to West Yellowstone right next to the national park from Salt Lake City during the "summer months", which seems to include September. That article also mentions a bus service in the park during the summer months.
 * Flight tickets are not necessarily more expensive the more legs they include, (fun fact, even if it doesn't apply to your trip: in some cases the cheapest way to fly from A to B is booking a flight from A via B to C, and skipping the last leg) so flying to West Yellowstone via Salt Lake City and e.g. Denver might not be that expensive after all. --Ypsilon (talk) 15:38, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * People who "Skip the last leg" have been known to find their return booking cancelled by the airline. I have no personal experience in the matter but that's what I've heard. --76.69.116.4 22:30, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Flying to West Yellowstone airport would take 3 transfers and 24 hours of travel time, but it's "only" £545 for a one way flight so likely cheaper than flying to Denver or Salt Lake City with train/bus transfer to Yellowstone. I'll look into bus tours with pickup at/around West Yellowstone, if there are any. 2001:630:E4:4220:97A:D96C:C413:9A65 16:31, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Also consider Jackson, sometimes called Jackson Hole, which is in Wyoming south of the park, instead of West Yellowstone, which is in Montana west of the park. Jackson is farther from the park boundary but it's a larger town and therefore may be easier to get to from Denver.  I suspect there will be park tours from either town. --76.69.116.4 07:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

By the way, there is one other possibility to consider: find a friend, perhaps a couple, who would be interested in sharing the trip with you: someone who does (each) have a driver's license and is willing to do all the driving from Denver to the park and back, as well as and around the park (which is very large). Of course it would complicate things considerably, but I have to mention it on the off-chance that you like the idea. --76.69.116.4 07:20, 30 August 2019 (UTC)


 * If you search "Yellowstone bus tours" on google, you will see that there are various three-to-five day tours offered departing from Salt Lake City or Denver. A travel agent (they still exist) can help you find the better ones. The vast majority of visitors go by private car, with Bozeman and Billings, Montana the normal overnight stops or home bases (lodging options in the park itself are limited, if I remember correctly). However there is also a large business of bus tours catering mainly to senior citizens and/or foreign visitors who either cannot drive or do not wish to drive. That should be the best option for you. Xuxl (talk) 12:10, 30 August 2019 (UTC)