User talk:Sgroey

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Air Iceland and Icelandair
You changed Air Iceland to Icelandair in some articles. Have they merged? Has something else happened? I think it is very odd to have Icelandair – shouldn't the URL correspond to the company name? –LPfi (talk) 10:23, 25 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello @LPfi thanks for your message. The airline changed its name but leaving the old link was an oversight. Will fix when I get a chance. Thanks Sgroey (talk) 02:32, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * There used to be one airline with international flights and one with domestic ones, with those names. I think there also was some third one, but the mergers and renamings lost me. Are these two the same nowadays? –LPfi (talk) 06:05, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * They are indeed! The icelandair article on wikipedia has a good summary of this Sgroey (talk) 01:40, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

SunExpress
Hello. I noticed you removed SunExpress from a number of articles with the edit summary "remove defunct airline". However, it seems it is possible to book a flight for August through their website (although they seem not to serve either airport in Istanbul) and the Wikipedia article for the company makes no mention of it going out of business. Are you absolutely sure it has closed down? Vidimian (talk) 14:57, 25 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello @Vidimian thanks for looking into this. This airline still operates! Will revert edits. I was working off the wikipedia article defunct airlines of turkey which will also need to have sunexpress removed. Thanks! Sgroey (talk) 02:30, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I undid your relevant edits to the Turkey and Göreme articles. Vidimian (talk) 18:28, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Many thanks! Sgroey (talk) 00:41, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

"Clean up"
I don't like some of your clean up. In Special:Diff/4746162/4750480, you changed "Keminmaa", with two separate municipality names, to the unwieldy "Keminmaa". In Special:Diff/4739774/4750481 you changed "km²" to "km&lt;sup>2&lt;/sup>" (rendering as "km2"); the former is much nicer in wikitext and I know of no consensus that the latter would be preferred.

If you do real copy editing, then I don't object to doing minor changes like this in the edited text, but doing them on their own is disruptive – unless there is a consensus on what the preferred variant is.

I assume the AWB rules are copied from Wikipedia, where you might have more complicated expressions, where using x² for one term could look stupid – but we don't have such expressions. It is very rare that km² could be mixed up with km³ or something like that, so the size of the exponent doesn't really matter, other than aesthetically. AWB suggesting a change doesn't mean that you should do that change.

–LPfi (talk) 13:28, 14 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi there, thanks so much for your feedback. I'm new to AWB and still figuring it out. I do apologise for the unhelpful edits and will make sure to change those settings so they do not happen again in future. Apologies, Sgroey (talk) 00:41, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. –LPfi (talk) 06:18, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * If you do notice me doing something wrong again, please don't hesitate to reach out Sgroey (talk) 07:49, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Here we go: in Pöytyä you changed km² into km2 and removed the whitespace in a listing name parameter ( XYZ ). I advised against the former above, and the latter whitespace is needed to get the name separated from the marker. The thing should be fixed in the listing template (or module), but I didn't success in finding out how, so now always add it when I link the name parameter. In this case there is no marker, but the user who might add it might not know about this oddity. –LPfi (talk) 13:00, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * One more: what does "at the poles north–south of 70–80 degrees latitude" mean? Before it read "north/south", which is a comprehensible shorthand, although not elegant. –LPfi (talk) 13:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think that most recent change was me, but in reference to your previous message, I have changed the AWB settings to skip pages if there are only minor changes like that. Thanks again for your patience and understanding! Sgroey (talk) 05:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This, where it was buried in a lot of other stuff. But thank you, fixing ABW settings seems the way to go – in addition to looking out for places where the "wrong" spelling actually is right. –LPfi (talk) 11:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes you're 100% right about that, in so many WV articles on Catalonian places AWB wants to replace every Vell with "fell"! I have made AWB skip pages where only minor edits "need" to be made. Thanks again and please keep the conversation going if I do the wrong thing. Sgroey (talk) 02:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)


 * BUMP! Do you have some reason to prefer km2 over km²? I definitely prefer km² over km&lt;sup>2&lt;/sup> in the code, which should be easily editable by any traveller, also on mobile. –LPfi (talk) 06:54, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi again, thank you for your message. I think the former looks much better on the page than the latter. I am following the wikipedia manual of style, but I can't find any guidance on this on WV. If a consensus were to be reached about this on WV, I'd be happy to follow it. I don't think this change makes future article edits more difficult, even in source. Please note I have been following your guidance above regarding not making these minor changes without making substantive copyedits to the page as well. Your advice has increased my productivity a lot. Sgroey (talk) 22:52, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't think there is any specific guidance on this, so I am starting a discussion in the Pub. –LPfi (talk) 07:49, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

No need to worry about different voltages?
In a "minor edit" of Packing list ("→‎Laundering clothes: add image, proofreading") you changed
 * "Be sure to check the correct voltage and frequency is available in your destination."

into
 * "You don't need to worry about different voltages, only different power plugs. Bring a universal power plug adaptor"

That is not a minor edit, not "proofreading" and not in the section "Laundering clothes", and as I understand, very dangerous advice.

You did tell the reader to bring "power adapters", whatever that means, and perhaps those devices can solve the voltage problem, but your wording makes it seem it is independent advice.

Please explain what this part of the edit is about; I'm reverting it partly for the time being.

–LPfi (talk) 08:58, 29 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi there, good pickup. I was thinking about power adapters for computers or phones, but you're right. Let's leave it the way you edited it. Sgroey (talk) 12:45, 29 December 2023 (UTC)