User talk:Rodrigoveloso1985

Welcome, please don't tout
Hello, Rodrigoveloso1985! Thank you for contributing to Wikivoyage, but please note that one or more of your recent edits has been reverted as it appeared to be an attempt to use this site to advertise or promote a business or service. Wikivoyage is created by travellers for travellers, and while business owners and employees are welcome to contribute, use of this site for promotional purposes is not allowed.

If you feel that your edits were incorrectly identified as promotional, please read Wikivoyage's guidelines on identifying promotional edits. If, after reading that guideline, you still feel your edits were incorrectly removed, please use this talk page or the talk page of the article where your edit was removed to explain why your change was not promotional. Note that it is very important that you discuss your proposed change before re-adding it since repeated promotional edits can lead to a temporary block of your account's ability to edit Wikivoyage, and in serious cases the business in question may be blacklisted from Wikivoyage.

Let me know in a reply if you have any questions. Kind regards, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:05, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the email. I'm going to reply here for convenience's sake and would appreciate if you do the same (I should have specified this above).


 * The problem is not with businesses that are privately owned or profit making entities, as Wikivoyage isn't a socialist organisation. But what we are is a travel guide written by travellers, for travellers. Those listings you cited were added by customers of the businesses in question, or by people specifically doing research for Wikivoyage with the experience of travellers in mind.


 * By contrast, your edits seem to have been made with the intent of attracting business to your company. I do think that the guideline pages linked above are quite clear on what sort of edits we do and don't allow, and companies advertising themselves comes under the latter. Another policy of interest to you would be WV:Tour. Is it possible to visit the walkway in Arouca without a tour company? If so, then how does your excursion constitute a "value-added" activity? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:56, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello again!

Thank you for the quick reply.

I do apologize for not having read the "Wikivoyage:Don't tout" section before editing.

For what I can tell, I did post 2 links (one in the DO section and one in the GO NEXT section). that was the reason for the reversal of the edit correct?

I believe the changes made do not violate any of the other rules defined.

Regarding your question "Is it possible to visit the walkway in Arouca without a tour company? " - The answer is yes, it is possible. But, for people staying in Porto the trip to the begginging of this attraction is not simple at all. Our value added would be to allow a visitation of this atraction for people that are in Porto. To get there by themselves and come back on the same day using public tranportation is close to impossible...

We trully believe that this would be helpful for many visitors and would love to be able to add this information.

If that is not possible, thank you anyway.

All my best, Rodrigo


 * Hi again. Yes, I reverted your edits because of the inserted links.
 * Arguably, Porto isn't even the best place to list the walkway, at Arouca seems to be quite a long way out of the city. That said, I'm hardly an expert on Portugal, and don't know if there's a better article that covers an area closer to the attraction, or whether Arouca as a town would warrant its own article. If I may, I'll (attempt to) bring into this discussion to see what he thinks on the attraction's placement.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:30, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, and  I generally dislike having Portugal listings outside municipal boundaries, and I will work to correct these in the future. (This is not necessarily policy, but my personal preference and recommendation.) I am not familiar with Arouca, but looking at another travel site seems to indicate that they have enough things to See and Do and places to Eat and Sleep that they merit an article. It can then be linked from Porto's Go next section (which could do with some cleanup and formatting). Feel free to create it and  me if you'd like advice and guidance. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 18:06, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * How difficult would it be for someone to rent a car and drive from Porto to Arouca? Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:18, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * About an hour per Google Maps (but not entirely by motorway). There's also bus service, but no rail per Arouca. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 20:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it takes around one hour. And from Arouca to the Paiva Walkways is roughly 30' more. Rodrigoveloso1985 (talk) 21:10, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Not really arduous. I'm not seeing a compelling reason to list a tour purely as transportation. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:19, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok! I completely understand. I Just want to point out the different treatment given to other companies. Have a nice Day. Rodrigoveloso1985 (talk) 08:00, 10 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Please point out which other listings should be removed. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:20, 10 April 2021 (UTC)