User talk:PerryPlanet/Archive/2007

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Main streets in Albuquerque?
Hey John, need your advice. As I mentioned earlier, I've started working on a map for the Albuquerque article, and have some time today (day off) to work on it. You might check out Project:How to draw a map for what this entails. Note that the first part is to sketch in "main streets," and here is where I could use some help. From my point of view these are probably the Interstates; north-south, Coors, Rio Grande, Carlisle, Louisiana, Wyoming, Eubank, Juan Tabo, Tramway; and east-west, Montgomery, Menaul, Lomas, Central, Cesar Chavez (maybe not that "main," but I want to bound the university district, and there are attractions there), Gibson. However, I see Albuquerque from the standpoint of a frequent visitor, not a resident, and one who doesn't visit the entire city at that, just places that I need or want to travel to. Are there any other streets that qualify as "main" that I'm missing and are far enough from the others to show up on a map? (I can make a case for Lead and Coal, but that would make the map fairly "dense" in the university area.)

If you have any experience with Inkscape, maybe you can help here. I'm not fluent with it, to put it mildly, and could always use the help. Even without that, however, a reality check on content would be appreciated. Thanks! -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 11:46, 9 February 2007 (EST)


 * Well, I did create a map for Belen the other day using Inkscape, so I can totally help out with this map (course, my skills are a little rusty...). Anyway the main streets, let's see...Google Maps is always a nice place to start checking...
 * Okay, north-south you're okay, but you definetely want to put in San Mateo as well (Jefferson should be in there as well, which isn't too hard since it connects with San Mateo). You should also probably put in 2nd/4th Street as well. You might want to also throw in University and/or Yale, because they are big connections from the airport to the downtown/UNM area.
 * East-west...I agree that putting Lead/Coal in there would probably make it too dense, those streets should be treated more like "local" roads. Now, you might want to put in Rio Bravo, Osuna, Paseo del Norte, Alameda, and Tramway east/west (you gotta get up north since that's where the Balloon Fiesta is).
 * Other than that I can't think of anything else...If something comes to mind, I'll let you know. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 02:19, 10 February 2007 (EST)
 * That's excellent, and yes, a look at Belen suggests that you're probably farther along the learning curve already than I am. If you can send me your e-address (use the "E-mail this user" function on the side of the page), I'll forward you the map file as it exists today; we can bounce it back and forth editing until it's in shape to put into the article.  I think that star status is not far away for this article, and it's largely your doing; thanks! -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 16:19, 10 February 2007 (EST)

CotW
Just FYI, there's a "queue" system for Project:Collaboration of the week. San Diego would be a great one to have in the queue, as it's a popular destination with an article that needs work, but it should be added to the "Unscheduled" section, then worked in. I've taken the liberty of making the change. (BTW, I wish others would follow your example of suggesting concrete things to work on. It's in the "Nominating" section, but most people don't do it.) -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 22:24, 13 February 2007 (EST)
 * Ah, thank you. I was confused because it says "If an article meets the criteria above, add it to the "Upcoming" queue. There is no need for a discussion to select an article just for a week." But I should have realized it went into the "Unscheduled" section, since that was there. Thanks for clearing that up. :) (WT-en) PerryPlanet 00:26, 14 February 2007 (EST)

Zion, etc
Thanks for your efforts to push Zion National Park to star status, and all the work you're doing on other articles like Albuquerque, it's good to have you around! (WT-en) - Cacahuate 19:56, 22 February 2007 (EST)
 * Thank you! :)


 * Sorry, I really can't think of anything else to say. :P Thanks! (WT-en) PerryPlanet 18:56, 23 February 2007 (EST)

Happy birthday!
You were already at University at 16? Good for you :)  I'm 30 and still haven't made it – (WT-en) cacahuate   talk 01:16, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Albuquerque skyline photo
What happened to the dynamite image that used to be at the top of the ABQ article? That was a great photo. Was there a copyvio issue or such?

My wife and I were in Albuquerque for last night's baseball game, and got routed from same by a thunderstorm. That was a REALLY impressive storm ... -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 21:09, 5 August 2007 (EDT)
 * The old image of the skyline was a photo taken directly from the city's website, and the city seems to have a copyright on their images. The same photo was posted on the Wikipedia page for Albuquerque and was quickly removed, and there are problems with other city images on the Wikipedia.
 * I admit, my photo sucks, but it's just a placeholder until we can get a better image.
 * Say, how far did you get on that map of ABQ you were doing? I was just about to start my own. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 21:23, 5 August 2007 (EDT)

Albuquerque maps
Hey, nice job on the maps! Just one thing... unless you use the PD template (which contains all PD icons, etc) and leave off the Wikivoyage logo then the whole map has to be licensed as cc-by-sa 1.0, since that is what the WT logo and some of those icons are licensed as. – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 00:21, 21 August 2007 (EDT)
 * Whoops! Thanks for clearing that up for me. I'll be sure to keep that in mind. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 01:18, 21 August 2007 (EDT)

New star
Congratulations on the star for Albuquerque! (Now pick somewhere else and turn your talents there...) (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 18:22, 5 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Eh, now that I've fulfilled my ultimate goal for Wikivoyage, I think I'll retire for a bit. Although I do have my eye on the San Diego articles... ;) (WT-en) PerryPlanet 21:54, 5 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Hey, if you haven't quite retired yet... I notice that you have traveled around Utah. I'd like to fix up the regions for that state, would you care to take a look at my proposal? I'd really appreciate any insight on how best to group the counties. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 22:46, 5 September 2007 (EDT)

Utah
Any chance I can get you to reduce that list of cities on the Utah page to 9? I'm personally not sure which to cut. Maybe Orem and Ogden? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 01:31, 7 September 2007 (EDT)
 * How about Orem and Kanab? Kanab is a pretty small town. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 01:55, 7 September 2007 (EDT)
 * I'm tempted to either keep Kanab only because I'd like to keep a nice geographical spread of our sample cities, and its the largest and most important town in southern Utah east of Zion. But I'm not wedded to it. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 02:09, 7 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Well, for a geographical spread, I think you'll be fine with St George and Cedar City, they're in the same area of the state. Kanab is a great stopover, but it really is just a town. It's not a city, even though it's being listed as such. But that's just my humble opinion. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 13:24, 7 September 2007 (EDT)
 * My feeling is that Kanab is worth keeping simply because it is the only travel-relevant dot on the map in that rather interesting part of the state&mdash;St George and Moab are both really far away. Also, we tend to list just about any human-occupied area under the heading "cities" just to keep the heading simple. I was thinking Orem & Ogden because they are the smallest of the "suburbs" listed on the main page, and my hunch is that suburbs are never particularly travel-relevant. But I just don't know that section of the state; the numerous suburbs listed might actually have a big pull for travelers in the area? I also notice that we don't list anything in Western Utah, maybe it might make sense to pull out another suburb in favor of Brigham City? I'll do a little research and revamp the city descriptions to try and get a better handle on this. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:46, 7 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Whoops, Ogden is actually a city isn't it ;) You know what, perhaps we should take out Kanab, seeing as that area is already well represented in the "Other destinations" section. h --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:51, 7 September 2007 (EDT)

Long Beach Hyatt
Perry, I'm not sure why you reverted the addition of the Long Beach Hyatt to the Long Beach page. The language is pretty promotional, but I think that can be fixed, and the listing is probably a good one. Am I missing something? --(WT-en) Evan 16:49, 14 September 2007 (EDT)
 * I'm sorry, you're right. I got just a bit carried away with reverting all those edits, I must have missed a couple that I should have just edited. In many of the articles this guy edited, he simply highlighted the Hyatt listing that was already there, rather than add a new listing.
 * Again, I'm sorry. I'll be more careful in the future. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 17:15, 14 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Oh, I didn't realize that. I've gone back and added back in the Hyatt listings where they were lost, so I think we're OK. --(WT-en) Evan 17:21, 14 September 2007 (EDT)

Shiny Buttons
Hi John - you've done tons of good stuff around here for a long time now, so any interest in joining the shiny button club? The job basically entails doing exactly what you're already doing, with the cavaet that you need to be careful not to accidentally hit "block" or "protect" instead of "edit" :) Let me know if you'd be interested and I'd be happy to start a nomination. -- (WT-en) Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 17:07, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I was just about to make this suggestion myself. You'd make a great admin. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 18:50, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Sure! Wow, this is really an honor! No one has ever asked me to be an admin of anything before. :) (WT-en) PerryPlanet 12:08, 14 October 2007 (EDT)


 * Done! You've got two weeks to get your "I'd like to thank the academy..." speech ready! -- (WT-en) Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 12:20, 14 October 2007 (EDT)


 * The switch has been flipped &mdash; welcome to the shiny button club! (WT-en) Jpatokal 02:31, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Hooray! Wow, I got a few extra buttons on the top now. My first act as administrator will be to update my user page. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 14:36, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Vandalism policy?
I don't know about you folks (I'm sending the same message to several), but I for one am getting sick and tired of the intentional vandalism that's going on here. I am trying to start a discussion on Project:Community policies as to whether something more forceful needs to be in place to deal with it. Historically, we have bent far over backwards to avoid punitive action against vandals and have simply gone in and cleaned up the messes they create. However, the frequency of vandalism is growing, and I am not convinced that we are doing Wikivoyage a service by tolerating it. This said, I'm not at all sure what the "right" response is.

I'd appreciate your participation in the discussion on that talk page. Let's see if we can come up with something appropriate. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 11:44, 19 October 2007 (EDT)

Downtown Charlotte map
Great job as always, I love what you did with the multiple listings-on-one-block blowups! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 03:58, 4 November 2007 (EST)
 * Thanks! I couldn't figure out any other way to fit all those listings into one little block. :-) (WT-en) PerryPlanet 18:57, 4 November 2007 (EST)

Lynx
Hi, I just popped in to say something about Lynx and found that you beat me to it. Do you know where the listing of the Home Economist in South End is? It was on the 12 line and I haven't yet found the closest Lynx stop, and the last time I went there was Wednesday. (WT-en) phma 23:34, 25 November 2007 (EST)
 * Home Economist? Do you mean the market? Looking at their website, it looks like their South End location is just south of the intersection of South and Remount (which unfortunately is outside the range of the map of SouthEnd I did!), which would put it just a few blocks north of the "New Bern" LYNX station. :) (WT-en) PerryPlanet 00:11, 26 November 2007 (EST)

Thanks
I appreciate those detailed critiques on the Star nominations page! Your pointers have been very helpful in improving the articles. And, as I think you know, the best reward you can get after working hard on an article is when someone else gives it a close, thoughtful reading. So thanks! (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 15:29, 15 December 2007 (EST)
 * You're welcome. Thank you for your hard work on the Chicago articles! You and Peter are really setting a standard for us Wikivoyageers to look up to. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 20:00, 15 December 2007 (EST)