User talk:Normsdale

Hello, Normsdale! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. If you are familiar with Wikipedia, take a look over some of the differences here. — C URTAIN  TOAD  !— 05:59, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

well since you asked
railway material on wikivoyage is hardly an advanced part of the project... there are many aspects to it. even tidying up or adding to Heritage_and_tourist_railways would be a small start. As for the larger aims, well, good luck to you - if you are familiar with the related projects and articles on wp.en - and the 'Trains' project there, thats a help. If you have a good knowledge or copy of the Cooks book or Man in seat 61 materials - thats another help. But the actual 'logic' of wikivoyage is very different to wp en and other wikis. Take to the time to have a look around, and then work out how the rail info fits in - it is well worth seeing the different ways of seeing things here. sats (talk) 14:51, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Your edits
As you appear to trying to get a good name back after activities on Wikipedia may I suggest you take the time to look at how good articles have been written here and expand some of the pages you have created before creating more pages. Some of the railway and town articles you have started could be very interesting and useful, but please try and provide specific information rather than general description. Also think again about Southmead, not sure this is in the spirit of the site. Please don't see this as being negative, people on this site want to help new contributors, there is a lot of work to do and the more that help the better. --Traveler100 (talk) 20:20, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have been defacto blocked over on Wikipedia for 1 year due a checkuser dispute. I am a good faith editor. I will promise not to commit any vandalism here and I will flesh out some outlines before plunging forward too hard. But Wikivoyage is exciting. A project that I can really get my teeth into. I am a veteran Wikipedian who has been editing on and off for over 10 years and my main dispute over there is notability and admins who do not assume good faith. As for Southmead, I love Southmead, I was a patient there for four months when I had mental health difficulties and even made edits from hospital from my netbook. I will try to get some more fair information about it, but It really is a rougher place of Bristol compared to even places like Stokes Croft. Normsdale (talk) 11:44, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Refs and links
Hi. I just want to let you know that we don't use refs on this site, nor do we use packed URLs. Please have a look at the external links policy page to see the standard format for external links on Wikivoyage.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:19, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

An effort to reach out
Hi. I think it's great that you're enthusiastic about trains, and I hope you stick around and post some great content. But I'm not sure you really understand what this site is about. The basic mission of this site is to cover travel destinations. Anything that is even slightly tangential to that mission needs to have good content, so as to make a strong argument that is more likely to persuade those admins and long-time regulars who favor a narrower, more focused scope for this site. I, by the way, am generally not one of them (look here for an example of the kinds of scope discussions we've had: ). However, what unites most people on this site is a strong aversion to articles that lack content and present no obvious framework for content to be added. And getting angry and posting things like a question of whether I'm a "deletionist" (with the vague implication that not wanting a bunch of red links about Africa might make me a racist or something) or that "the fact that Wikivoyage is still lacking basic words that any travel guide would have is embarrassing" is a good way to get people angry at you and much less likely to want to cooperate with your creative impulses to expand the scope of this guide. So please consider (a) editing out some of your more inflammatory language; (b) taking a breath before you post on talk pages; and (c) starting stub non-destination articles in your own user space, moving them to main space when they are beyond the stub level. (C) may be the most important point, because it will give you a fighting chance of developing these articles beyond the likelihood of a vote to delete. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:34, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have no intention of being angry, I am going to go to sleep soon, and calm down for the night. I will try to make some more constructive edits tomorrow. I'm still a new editor here, and I have had a bad time over at Wikipedia which I have been blocked from, so I am trying to take things slowly. I'm sorry if I implied any offence. Normsdale (talk) 23:40, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. I want you to feel welcome here and help the site grow. Sleep well. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:26, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Just what the...
Maybe it's just me who doesn't understand how our travel guide is improved by moving articles to "...on wheels", ,.

I've reverted your moves and tagged your "wheels" for speedy deletion. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:55, 25 February 2014 (UTC)


 * As this account is indefinitely blocked on Wikipedia and the previous pledge to avoid vandalism here has now been violated I've applied an indefinite block based on How to handle unwanted edits, which allows the same block that has been imposed on another Wikimedia site to be imposed here if the same behavior occurs. -- Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 20:52, 25 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Ryan! ϒpsilon (talk) 05:18, 26 February 2014 (UTC)