User talk:Michaelno

Hi. I haven't officially welcomed you to Wikivoyage yet, so here's your official welcome.

You've already started contributing, but you still might want to look at the tips for new contributors page, which is full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page.

Also, please have a look at the don't tout page. The things that are considered touting on this site are not always things that would normally be considered touting elsewhere. For example, having full listings for Edo Wonderland Nikko Edomura on two separate pages (Nikko and Kinugawa‎) is not OK. Based on its address, it looks like the theme park is actually in Nikko, so if that's the case, that's where the listing should be, and the listing in the Kinugawa article should be removed. However, as I'm not familiar with the theme part, nor with Nikko or Kinugawa, there may be a good reason to list in Kinugawa and not in Nikko. I'll give you a day or so to make a choice of which of the two listings will remain, before I take action.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:03, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome and advice, I have read through the links you suggested and I will have to read through them more to absorb all the information. I will be careful about "touting", in this particular instance it is difficult to decide, reason being, Kinugawa is actually a part of Nikko, although this not mentioned in the Nikko page .. Edo Wonderland is located about 10km from famous temple area of Nikko and about 6km from Kinugawa hotspring(which is an area in Nikko)... however Edo Wonderland is not actually in Kinugawa. Buses are running directly to Edo Wonderland from both Nikko and Kinugawa stations) It is somewhat isolated in that it is in between the two popular areas and has nothing else (shops, stations etc) located around it. I definitely don't want to go against wikivoyage policies. Would it be ok to to make a smaller less detailed mention relating only to the proximity of Edo Wonderland or that there are bus services in Kinugawa page? I'd appreciate your input.

All the best, Michael


 * (I hope you don't mind that I moved your reply below my earlier post, as it's customary to put later posts lower on the page on Wikimedia sites.) Sure it would, and I understand the complexities, too. I think the best course of action would probably be to make a listing in the Kinugawa article that consists of the Nikko link, but written like this (without the "nowiki" codes) — Edo Wonderland Nikko Edomura — and provide bus information from Kinugawa to there. Or maybe just explain this in prose. But I think that a duplication of the description in two articles is out of compliance with site rules. Site rules, by the way, are not immutable, but changing them would require discussion and consensus, and I doubt that a discussion at Wikivoyage talk:Don't tout would result in any loosening, but you could try if you like. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:12, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you again. I will follow your suggestion, I will go ahead and make those changes, If I get something wrong Im sure you or someone will let me know but I think I got it.

All the best, Michael