User talk:BBA2020

Welcome, please don't tout
Hello, BBA2020! Thank you for contributing to Wikivoyage, but please note that one or more of your recent edits has been reverted as it appeared to be an attempt to use this site to advertise or promote a business or service. Wikivoyage is created by travellers for travellers, and while business owners and employees are welcome to contribute, use of this site for promotional purposes is not allowed.

If you feel that your edits were incorrectly identified as promotional, please read Wikivoyage's guidelines on identifying promotional edits. If, after reading that guideline, you still feel your edits were incorrectly removed, please use this talk page or the talk page of the article where your edit was removed to explain why your change was not promotional. Note that it is very important that you discuss your proposed change before re-adding it since repeated promotional edits can lead to a temporary block of your account's ability to edit Wikivoyage, and in serious cases the business in question may be blacklisted from Wikivoyage.

Let me know if you have any questions. Regards, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 11:34, 27 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello. Thanks for your email. If it's all the same to you, I'd rather reply on-wiki.
 * Firstly, we're not talking about other listings, but just about yours. Most people who edit Wikivoyage are travellers who add places they've visited or perhaps would like to visit, so it's not a question of certain businesses being "allowed" to list themselves and others not; we simply don't allow businesses to advertise themselves at all.
 * Please do read the pages linked above, then you should be able to understand why I consider this a further example of touting. But if not,


 * 1) "Gower is a beautiful spot for coasteering with epic scenery and award winning coastline." is not about your business, but rather the whole area.
 * 2) "Perfect for families, stag & hen parties, team-building or any groups seeking a world-class adventure." is still marketing speak, and again not necessarily specific to your business, but applies to any and all coasteering in Gower.
 * I appreciate it's difficult when you have both a financial stake and, presumably, a passion for the business, but your edits about your own business need to be as neutral as possible otherwise they're not acceptable to us. In general, Wikivoyage encourages a lively, non-neutral tone, but that is somewhat overridden in the case of someone with a conflict of interest such as yours. If it feels we're putting up hoops for you to jump through, then that is kind of true and by design because we don't want adverts in the travel guide,so we have to be strict in a way that may seem unreasonable. But it's not personal against you or specifically your business.
 * I hope this makes more sense. My next reply might not be for some hours due to other commitments, but if you have further questions I will get back to you. Regards, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:48, 27 November 2020 (UTC)