User talk:66.102.87.40

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 * I'm just going by what I read from secondary sources: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/crossing-to-quebec-the-interzip-way


 * Oh I see. If you're not the business owner, then revert me. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 03:55, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Re: Point Roberts
This is a travel guide, not a place to hash out the finer points of telephone exchanges. The main concern is people visiting from the rest of the US (the subject of the sentence where you inserted that), where domestic long distance on mobile is a thing of the past. If you ordinarily use AT&T or T-Mobile and you roam onto that tower in Tsawwassen, you'll either pay nothing extra if your plan includes roaming, or you'll pay the roaming rate, which doesn't differentiate between any mainland US area code or exchange (if you've got a former Sprint plan that still charges for voice roaming, for instance, you'll pay $0.25 a minute to call a Point Roberts number no matter what area code or exchange your phone is). Calling with a Canadian carrier is a secondary concern and is pretty self-evident- it'll be US long-distance unless the individual or business has made a Canadian number available (which is definitely possible ,and some do). Jamar0303 (talk) 20:57, 14 August 2021 (UTC)


 * If you roam onto a mobile base station in Tsawwassen? I hate to have to break it to you, but Tsawwassen is not in the United States of America. It's in Delta, so the bill will show a call from Ladner, British Columbia to some obscure independent telco in Washington State. (And no, none of the listings in our Point Roberts article contain 604 as a telephone number, they're all +1 360) It's therefore irrelevant that "domestic long distance on mobile is a thing of the past" because, as far as the network is concerned, you are trying to call Washington State from Canada... which is *not* domestic. Just be glad that they don't make you dial 011- or something stupid. You are not only roaming but are trying to call a number in another country. Expect to get dinged for the call. 66.102.87.40 01:56, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * You said that none of the listings in the article contain 604 as a telephone number. Thanks to signage like this, that has now changed. And that's aside from the fact that it is still in fact relevant in the context of US phone plan users who, while still in Washington state, are considered "in Canada", and that the ones that still charge for roaming will charge you the same rate to call any US number while registered to a Canadian tower regardless of area code or exchange. Jamar0303 (talk) 06:01, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


 * So what's your point? The number you added is Iristel, an Internet telephony provider which (through its dodgy resellers) has long been an abuse haven for all manner of scams, spams, fly-by-night debt collectors and questionable characters who never should've been given a downtown Vancouver BC number because they are, well, basically just about anywhere on the Internet. That doesn't change the fact that a call from Delta (or anywhere in Canada) to a Point Roberts number is not local. It just gives a downtown Vancouver number to one subscriber who does not live in downtown Vancouver. 66.102.87.40 16:16, 18 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Point is to rebut your previous assertions and point out once again that some businesses on the Point (like this realtor, in case you thought the first was an isolated case) still use 604 numbers to accommodate people calling on Canadian cellphone plans (meaning that 604 and 778 are still unofficially in use there), and that for people on US plans (as specified previously), no more domestic long distance charges and single-rate international voice roaming means that the exchange, as you previously quibbled about, is irrelevant. A US user roaming on the tower in Tsawwassen pays the same roaming rate to call a number in their hometown or Point Roberts (whether the business uses a 360 or 604 number), and a Canadian user will probably have to pay extra to call a 360 number but not a 604 number. Jamar0303 (talk) 17:26, 18 September 2021 (UTC)


 * A caller who picks up a Tsawwassen signal will find that much of +1 604 is vaguely local to Delta, while anything +1 360 is a trunk call (and is therefore likely to be charged as a call to another country). How painful that discovery will be depends on carrier and plan, but that doesn't change the fact that the US (or whatever other random foreign country) is not in Delta BC's local calling area. No idea why you keep removing these facts. 66.102.87.40 18:58, 18 September 2021 (UTC)


 * And just because it is a fact does not merit its inclusion in a travel guide, since from a traveler's perspective, calling from the Point can be boiled down into four categories based on your home carrier and if the person or business called has a Washington or BC number-
 * Use a Verizon-based service in Point Roberts and calls to 360 numbers are considered domestic while calls to 604/778 numbers are considered Canadian long distance.
 * Use a T-Mobile or AT&T-based service in Point Roberts that allows Canadian roaming and calls to both 360 and 604/778 numbers will be considered roaming calls.
 * Use a T-Mobile or AT&T-based service in Point Roberts that doesn't allow Canadian roaming and you won't have any usable service to speak of.
 * Use any Canadian service plan in Point Roberts and calls to 604/778 numbers will be considered domestic or provincial (if you're hanging onto a really old plan) while calls to 360 numbers will be considered US long distance. And extending the above, the main concern to note in a travel guide is the second and third due to their counter-intuitiveness (not picking up US cell signal despite being in the US), because the last is self-evident and well-understood. Jamar0303 (talk) 07:09, 19 September 2021 (UTC)