User talk:213.151.81.74

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Thank you very much for adding all that content about places on Santorini!

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:47, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Maybe shorten some sections of Santorini?
One again, thank you very much for all the work you're doing! However, the point of dividing region articles into articles for individual islands and cities or towns within them is precisely that there's no need to duplicate information. If you look at Region article template, you'll see an emphasis on using sections like "See" as summaries. I consider Santorini too long now for Wikivoyage style, with too many attractions mentioned, and definitely too many images, per Image policy, which I'd ask you to have a look at when you have a spare moment. In particular, having images alternate between left and right one after the other is not Wikivoyage-style. With rare exceptions, we keep our thumbnails on the right, and it's also recommended to distribute them more or less evenly throughout an article.

Don't feel bad about my comments; every site has a house style, and new users aren't expected to know the one that was arrived at on Wikivoyage after lots of previous debate and discussion.

If you look at Category:Star articles, you can see a clickable list of the articles that have been deemed so exemplary they deserve the highest commendation. A star region article you can look at as a model and for inspiration is Bali, and there are also star city articles for cities with the Huge city article template, which have constituent districts with their own articles and are therefore somewhat analogous to regions vis-a-vis cities within them: Buffalo, Chicago, Copenhagen, San Francisco, Singapore (also a country, of course), and Washington, D.C.. There's a much longer list at Category:Guide articles, which are not star-level but still good articles to emulate or be inspired by. They run the gamut in terms of category, but some are region articles, huge city articles or country articles, none of which are bottom-level articles in terms of this site's Breadcrumb navigation structure, and they are therefore relevant to look at in relation to Santorini.

Let us know if you have any questions; just ask anything in a reply below, discuss matters specific to the Santorini article at Talk:Santorini if you'd like a wider response, or post to the Travellers' pub if you like.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:09, 10 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for offering a reply; I replied to you. Suffice it to say, the way you are doing things is helpful in many ways, but the extent of your coverage of sights in a region article is at variance with Wikivoyage style, rather defeats the point of having a breadcrumb hierarchy and will need to be modified at some point, with the main issue being that you specifically name and give coordinates to 33 sights. There are many good styles of travel guide-writing; the one used on this site is the product of long discussions that reached consensus, and we're not going to change it for one article; if you want to propose changes to what makes an article a star, I suggest you start a thread at Wikivoyage talk:Article status and see how far you get. By the way, though, if you decide to register an account, I can simply ping you back to the talk thread by creating a link to your username, instead of having to type here as well as there. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:51, 23 April 2022 (UTC)