User talk:118.93.47.31

Hello, and thanks for your contributions! I think there is a good argument to be made for upright thumbnail dimensions, but they have not been adopted by Wikivoyage so far, so please do not use them on this site, for now. The current discussion about issues related to upright thumbnail dimensions, which has seemingly reached a point of stasis at this point but is always open for more comments, is at Wikivoyage talk:How to add an image.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:45, 29 October 2013 (UTC)


 * What other features of MediaWiki software are not permitted, please?
 * Is there a page or pages which shows what features of MediaWiki software are not permitted to be used at Wikivoyage, please? --118.93.47.31 08:49, 29 October 2013 (UTC)


 * No, there's no such unitary page, to my knowledge (and I think there really actually isn't one). One unused feature that comes to mind is refs - we don't use refs here, except sometimes on talk (discussion) pages. You might find it useful to look through the Wikivoyage Manual of style and linked pages. I hope this isn't too frustrating. Working by consensus can be a little clunky, but it's the way things are done here, and the consensus on Wikivoyage hasn't always been the same as on other wikis, but as on every other wiki, it's subject to discussion and change. I look forward to your participation in discussions on which features should be used and why. If you're not sure where the discussion of a particular feature might have been broached before, please try posting at the Travellers' pub.


 * All the best,


 * Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the patient way you have explained that. Looking at those discussions it seems obvious that some contributors haven't really grasped that the HTML generated by MediaWiki markup is interpreted differently by different browsers and displayed differently according to the size of screen, resolution, etc. it's rather different from a printed brochure where such things as exact picture widths can be micro managed. I'm also a bit baffled as to exactly why some contributors here think they know better than the combined wisdom of hundreds of Wikipedians who explain why "upright factored" dimensions are preferable for most images (special cases such as embassy flags, etc, excepted): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PIC#Pixel_counts_vs._upright_factors --118.93.47.31 09:29, 29 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Please make the argument at Wikivoyage talk:How to add an image, where it will have a better chance of nudging along discussion. Part of the issue is that it's generally considered here at Wikivoyage that the default size of thumbnails is too small for a travel guide, and that perhaps we should wait until the WMF may increase the default size before using upright dimensions, but it's really best discussed there. And as I said, I think it's a good argument. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:41, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Well, Ikan Kekek, you'll know by now that I did follow your advice about asking in the Pub - and I'm still waiting for the answer. Not to worry - I appreciate your advice was well-intentioned and genuine and you did not realise we would get such a very graphical demonstration that what I had been told about Wikivoyage having "... some hyper-intolerant 'super users'..." was not wrong. --118.93.91.14 07:19, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Account creation
By the way, have you considered creating an account here? While you can absolutely keep contributing as an anonymous user, it promises a bunch of benefits, and no obligations. --Saqib (talk) 09:12, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikivoyage has a rapidly growing reputation for having some hyper-intolerant "super users" and I hardly wish to run foul of them. I think it best that my edits are assessed on their intrinsic merits rather than who or what made them. --118.93.47.31 09:29, 29 October 2013 (UTC)


 * If you get known by your IP or IPs, a judgment can be made based on those just as readily as it could be based on a username. I haven't found any hyper-intolerance here, though, in any case, and if I had, I wouldn't have agreed to be an admin when asked or continued when this community merged with Wikivoyage and then the WMF. I edited as an anonymous user for, I think, a couple of years before registering, though, so for whatever it's worth, you have my blessing, either way. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:41, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Temporary block
As noted in past discussions, comments like are not appropriate - argue the merits of your ideas without resorting to insulting or demeaning the work of others by suggesting a lack of interest in your ideas is because "some name-callers would then have to eat humble pie" and suggesting that there is some sort of "scandal". Given past warnings about incivility, I've blocked this account for one day. -- Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull;
 * I don't think censorship is going to help either our search rankings or our reputation, Ryan. You need to stop being so prickly if you are not to bring this Wiki into disrepute.
 * Nobody was mentioned by name in the posting that you refer to in your message above and these are not just "my ideas" but would be recognised as valid and cogent by anyone with just a fleeting interest or knowledge of search engine optimisation. --118.93.47.31 23:35, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Avoiding naming individuals does not mitigate incivility. Plus, you've been warned about that before, and you appear to be editing without logging in to attempt to avoid the negative reputation of your regular account.  Please stop your games.  LtPowers (talk) 23:05, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I see no warning either here or on any of the other talk pages of the IP's that Vodafone randomly assigns to me in New Zealand. I don't regard your ASSUMPTIONS about my real life ID as civil. Having done the research now and attempted to look inside your (rather narrow) minds, I can say quite equivocally that I AM NOT User:W. Frank and, therefore, can hardly log on to edit using his account and password! --118.93.91.14 07:11, 1 November 2013 (UTC)