User talk:ויקיג'אנקי

Hello, ויקיג&#39;אנקי! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Banner Eilat
Hi ויקיג'אנקי! Thanks for your contributions! You have changed the Eilat banner recently. Usually, when an existing custom banner is changed (replaced), there should be a brief discussion at the talk page explaining reasons. I quite like you new banner. Still there is a problem with the banner size. As you have edited banners before, you might know the ratio must be 7:1. See Banner expedition for some details. Can you fix it?

And one more thing: when you make an edit, please don't forget to fill in the Summary field describing briefly what you have done and why. Thanks and happy editing. --Danapit (talk) 07:18, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there, thanks for your contributions on this wiki and creating some nice page banners, but as my fellow Wikivoyager Danapit said above, please first discuss on the talk page when you want to replace the existing custom page banner on the articles talk page. I recently thought of giving you auto-patroller right since your contributions on this wiki are constructive and useful but I'm sorry to say it won't be granted until you co-operate with us. --Saqib (talk) 18:45, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I see. Unfortunately, at this time I do not have all the time in the world to invest here for the purpose of discussing every single change I am currently making - you see, I am currently fully involved in developing the Hebrew Wikivoyage (where I am currently the most active user) and as part of my efforts there I am currently creating around 20-40 banners in the instances in which existing banners are not good enough. They are all derivative works of existing panoramic photos from Wikicommns. I am doing this first and foremost in order to improve the Hebrew Wikivoyage, although I am sure many other Wikivoyage editions would eventually rather use many of these banners instead as well. In my own opinion, it would be a shame if there won't be an easier way to go about this but to make me get involved in 20-40 different consensus reaching discussions at the same time, on top of all the work I am currently putting into the Hebrew Wikivoyage (this would be impossible). ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 03:58, 31 October 2013 (UTC)


 * ויקיג&#39;אנקי, I see your point. This discussion is off course not necessary when you changing a banner from default to the first custom banner. But it s a good practice (not a rule) to discuss it when there already is a banner somebody else put lots of effort in - you know yourself that creating a banner is not a strictly trivial process, at least as a courtesy to the other authors. Discussion at the talk page should generally happen when the quality of the banners is comparable, you just feel that yours might be better or appropriate - don't forget we all have different esthetic standards. And you don't have to wait for the consensus either, instead you can change the banner right away and wait if somebody objects, which doesn't happen all that frequently, although we've had some rather frustrating discussions at some pages (like continents articles, for example, where many people want to express their opinions). When there is no doubt about the quality from your point of view, please just explain your reason in the edit summary. FYI, this is what our existing guideline recommends:

Changing custom banners: ''Poor quality banners may be replaced by better quality banners. Banners may be replaced by more appropriate banners. Correctly sized banners are by default more appropriate than incorrectly sized banners. Leave an edit summary explaining why the new banner is more appropriate. If anyone disagrees with a substitution for reasons other than correct sizing or image quality, temporarily replace the banner with the appropriate default banner and get consensus on the article talk page.''

But please, don't resign on adding banners to en wv because of this discussion, your input is needed here and highly welcome! --Danapit (talk) 07:19, 31 October 2013 (UTC)


 * OK. I just hope that in practise I won't be asked to jump through rings of fire only to add some of the nicer looking banners. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 03:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Auto patroller
Hi again, since you started to discuss the page banner replacements, I would like to inform you that I've decided to add the autopatrolled right to your account. I hope you'll continue to discuss before changing an existing custom banner on the articles talk page. Please keep making some beautiful page banners. Shalom! --Saqib (talk) 19:55, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 03:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Banners
Thanks for all the new banners!!!

Best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:19, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * They are really great! I'd just like to ask you to categorise them when you upload them to Commons (like when you add this one add category Wikivoyage banners of Missouri etc.), that way we can keep track of them. Jjtkk (talk) 09:26, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. More to come soon. Will categorize soon (but you are more than welcome to help me with that now). ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 21:55, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Jerusalem districts
Hello!

Kindly check out the district discussion for Jerusalem if you haven't already. ϒpsilon (talk) 18:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Will do. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 18:53, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:-
Hi there! Thanks for your contributions. I wanted to let you know that I've nominated Template:- for deletion. That doesn't mean it will be deleted, or that your contribution is unwelcome, but I did have some concerns about it, which I've explained at the deletion discussion. As the template creator, your input into why you created the template, and perhaps some suggestions on how to mitigate my concerns, would be very welcome. Thanks! Powers (talk) 15:22, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

banners from he:
Hi there. Thanks for the heads up with new banners from he:. I've commented on as many as I could. You might want to give it a break now and let others comment on the ones so far, before overloading us with more. Thanks again! Texugo (talk) 02:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Everyone is free to vote whenever they can. There is no rush. Consensus is not determined overnight and I am not going to put 500 of these - only the ones I created in the last month or so. I rather post all the banners I created in the last month at once so I won't forget any specific ones. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 03:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, no problem. I was just suggesting that they might all get noticed and commented on more if you did it in batches... Texugo (talk) 03:18, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

New Banners
Hi, some of your new banners are really cool, but could you maybe concentrate first on articles that do not have banners? There are still plenty to do.--Traveler100 (talk) 19:40, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Traveler100. In the recent year or so I have created around 170 new banners !.


 * I create the banners first and foremost for the Hebrew Wikivoyage (where I am an admin and the most active user) and only in the cases in which (1) specific articles have no banners (2) specific Wikivoyage banners exist on Engvoy+Wikicommons but better ones should probably be created (in my opinion).


 * After the work is done and I finish adding the alternative banners I create to the Hebvoy articles, I tend to ask the Engvoy community as well if people here think my alternative banners work better than the ones currently used. In most cases the Engvoy users prefer the existing banners, but I bring this option up here either way.


 * I do understand how the somewhat chaotic process of content development on wiki based platforms might annoy quite a few editors on this website or on other Wikimedia wiki communities. Nevertheless, you must understand that it is unrealistic to expect me to wait for a specific date in the distant future (the date in which we'll finish creating banners for all Wikivoyage articles) to try and create better alternative banners to the existing ones from the spectacular free licensed photos I discover on Flickr and Wikicommons every once in a while.


 * I hope you can understand,


 * ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 20:58, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

thank for baner of iran
this pictures and sec your pictures is true color so english user not Detailed. شاملو (talk) 00:16, 20 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I am not sure what exactly you meant but I understand it is positive :) I am glad I could help out. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 06:01, 20 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, glad you agree with me. How to remove this banner wiki data to allow an excuse to take another interesting discussion. :-)


 * Unfortunately I don't understand your English. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 19:45, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

היי, שמח שאתה מסכים איתי. כיצד להסיר נתונים wiki הבאנר זו כדי לאפשר תירוץ לקחת עוד דיון מעניין. :-) השתמש בגוגל מתרגם adrees:


 * I understood you use Google Translate. Unfortunately I still don't understand your English because Machine Translation still is light years from being that good (I understand the meaning of the translated words but not of the translated sentences). As of 2014 it is still impossible to have a normal conversation using Google Translate alone. Sorry. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk)

An award for you!
Thanks for the barnstar Shamloo ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 06:02, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I added many banners suggestions
Hi!

I added many banners suggestions, would you have time to have a look? Especially at bottom of page 1 and at page 3. Mexico banners are especially important because Wikimania will happen there. Thanks a lot! Nicolas1981 (talk) 03:41, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Formosa (Brazil)
Hi there. I reverted your banner addition here because the photo appears to be of Baía Formosa, in the state of Rio Grande do Norte. Goiás does not have an oceanfront. Texugo (talk) 17:07, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Nicolas1981 suggested I'll make a banner out of that photo. Maybe you know of a different good photo I could use to make a banner of for that article ? ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 17:36, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


 * let me suggest to you researching images of "Itiquira falls" on Google and elsewhere. Beautiful place. Ibaman (talk) 17:45, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks Ibaman. If it doesn't exist on commons or as a free licensed photo on Flickr, I won't be able to create such a banner though. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 17:47, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Banners for articles with no existing banner?
Really appreciate that you are making suggestions for alternative banners for the English Wikivoyage, but I'm wondering why the focus on replacing existing banners rather than seeing if any of your Hebrew banners could help the 66% of English Wikivoyage articles that currently have no banner whatsoever?

In case you haven't done so already, there is a handy long list here: https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Category:Has_default_banner

--Andrewssi2 (talk) 22:15, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I am working on many different things simultaneously (those 51 banners were created during a period of time longer than a year!). Last time I checked there were missing around 15,000 banners on the English Wikivoyage! I myself am capable of creating 1 decent looking banner per 20-30 mins. I usually spend most of that time looking for a good source image to make the banner from. Do the math yourself - it would take me ages to do the majority of those 15,000 banners in this pace. I am working in my pace, prioritizing according to my own common sense. I am currently the sole main editor in Heb Voy so I cannot focus on banners alone. I probably could have done more of the 15,000 banners if I was payed for my work :) ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 23:38, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * So the banners you are creating on Hebrew WV are generally speaking for articles who corresponding English WV page already has a banner?
 * Would it not be more efficient to just reuse the English banners in Hebrew Wikivoyage and create banners for articles in both versions that do not yet have them? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 23:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * In general, the way things look visually have always been very important to me, and for that reason, many times I can end up spending a lot of time trying to fix various things that I do not like visually. Either way, what you are suggesting ... is that if I see a banner of a prominent article on Hebvoy which I really don't like... according to you I should wait another 3-4 years (until all 15,000 banners are created) before trying to create a better alternative banner ? I am sorry but that doesn't make sense to me. As long as I am not being payed to create banners, I am going to continue prioritizing the tasks I am going to try accomplishing. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 00:52, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * If you really hate an existing banner then I certainly don't have an issue with you creating an alternative, and some of your banners are in fact better than the originals in English Wikivoyage. I have suggested replacements to existing banners myself on occasion.
 * I'm only suggesting that if it is taking you 30 minutes to create a typical banner then I would suggest that it would be better to consider using the English version first, that's all. It is your time, paid or otherwise. Thanks. Andrewssi2 (talk) 01:22, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Bottom line - it takes me around 20-30 mins to do each, and for this reason, the banners I would end up creating out of all the 15,000 left, would probably be only around 1-2% of everything (I'll probably end up creating another 70-200 banners in the next years) - and that would only be accomplished in the course of several years. I rather those banners I end up creating would be for prominent articles that are in desperate need of good banners, and that they would look good visually IMO (I would not create banners that I don't like, just because I want to get one more done, out of the 15,000 missing).


 * This feedback from you has got me to think of one possible crazy idea/solution to the lack of Wikivoyagers focusing on creating all missing 15,000 banners. I will bring up my idea in the Travellers' pub soon. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 02:19, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Just as a friendly reminder (on the subject of engaging other Wikivoyagers); you previously made this article list for people to suggest source images. A number of editors indeed posted suggestions, but many of those where never used. Perhaps they can be useful for you? JuliasTravels (talk) 12:32, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, not all suggestions are actually good source images for panoramic banners. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 12:51, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Votes for deletion
Hello and Shanah Tovah! Thanks for all the great work you do!

I love the new pagebanner you put on Baltimore/Midtown, but I suggest you read and make a comment, because both the pagebanner you replaced and your banner have a potential copyright-violation problem in regard to the statue in front of the train station. I'm not suggesting you delete your pagebanner or remove it from the page, but I think it's important for you to know it's a problem under discussion. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:57, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I see. Well, this statue is already in a different photo stored in Wikicommons (see Baltimore_Penn_Station_during_Artscape,_2014.jpg). If specific users want to call for the immidiate removal of that photo and my new banner, they are more then welcome to open a deletion request in Wikicommons, and we'll see what the admins there would decide. From what I have read it seems to me that many people in Baltimore really dislike that statue and want it removed from the Baltimore Penn Station - that might explain the real reason for why this user is seeking to have a different banner. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 05:49, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm smiling because I like that idea, but I don't think that's the reason for the proposal to delete the files on this site. :-) Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:54, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Consensus
Hi there. I just want to make sure that you're aware of Consensus. Majority vote is not how decisions are made. As for Talk:Dallas/Downtown, I don't think there's a clear consensus to change the banner for the Downtown article. It would be better to explore the suggestion of using it for the Dallas article, where the banner would probably also have more visibility. JuliasTravels (talk) 21:10, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I started a discussion on this matter at the Travellers' pub ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 01:23, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!
I want to let you know that I've taken note of the number of pagebanners you've been adding to articles that hadn't had one. The next time someone complains that you are only interested in substituting banners on pages that already have one, I've got your back.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:52, 22 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I got to say though that the majority of the new banners I have created in the recent month are from the last big round of banners I created first and foremost for Hebvoy articles (during the last month I created around +200 new banners and by doing so I managed to get banners on almost all of the Hebvoy articles - out of the 2,140 articles we have on the Hebvoy main space, 2,130 have a unique custom made banner!!). The few articles that didn't get custom banners are mostly of itinerary articles of non notable places in Israel (and thus it is hard to find a picture available to be used for those banners).
 * I'm currently focused mainly on making better banners for the Hebvoy articles with banners that aren't good enough according to the Hebvoy community consensus.
 * I got to note though, that every once in a while, when I do come across a nice panoramic picture on Flickr of a notable place, in many times I end up creating a new banner of the panoramic photo and add the banner to Engvoy if the article about that place on Engvoy does not have any banner (that's the case with the recent banners I added on Envoy). ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 04:20, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Mazel tov! That's a terrific achievement for Hebvoy to have only 10 articles with no custom banner! Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:27, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I myself feel though that we on Hebvoy would only complete the big banners milestone when we'll mostly have good decent banners for most of the articles on Hebvoy (hopefully, I'll manage to find many good alternative panoramic photos for around 400 articles on Hebvoy that currently have banners which need to be replaced according to the Hebvoy community consensus). ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 05:14, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I'll look forward to seeing those. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Bus service to Akko - update required
Greetings, ויקיג'אנקי! I've returned to edit here, but due to my unfamiliarity with Wikivoyage templates I've encountered difficulty. Kindly review what I wrote in Talk:Akko where I got stuck. I'd appreciate your advice on how to proceed. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 17:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Disneyland banner
Hi! I need your help. he:דיסנילנד is using commons:File:Disneyland hub banner.jpg as its banner, but I need to delete it from Commons (because of the statue). Can you upload it locally to the Hebrew Wikivoyage? Powers (talk) 20:07, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks for the heads up. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 03:27, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Israeli Coastal Plain
Hi, See my comments on your recent edit of Israeli Coastal Plain - let's continue the discussion at Talk:Israel. Ar2332 (talk) 20:26, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Technical question
Why does the dynamic map in the Pasadena article have the borders of the city marked on the dynamic map in that article, even though template:Mapmask is not used in that specific article? where is the data about the border located? ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 06:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Have a look at mapshape, which is what's used in the Pasadena article. -- Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 06:51, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * So mapshape calls it from Wikidata? is there any easy way for me to copy the actual code of the border to Hebvoy to be used there with template:Mapmask, or do I have to create mapshape on hebvoy as well? (If I am not mistaken, I tried to import mapshape to hebvoy but it didn't work. ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 14:08, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Creating the mapshape template (along with its dependencies) on Hebrew Wikivoyage would be the easiest solution. You should only need mapshape and mapshape/Inner to make it work - everything else is handled by mw:Help:Extension:Kartographer. -- Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 15:55, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Does mapshape call this information from Wikidata? ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 16:46, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I just tried to see if it would work on Hebvoy ... and it gave me the following error (which I translated, so it might not be exact to the English written error) - "  to   and   to  . A similar edit to the wordmark will probably do the trick? —Justin ( koa'''vf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:20, 4 December 2023 (UTC)