User talk:(WT-en) Kitsap and Beyond

Welcome to Wikivoyage (and thank you for creating a user account - you've already done better than a lot of newcomers who are business owners to this website). We have an introductory page for business owners--please take a minute to read it before going on with your edits.

Following your recent edits in the Seattle pages, I would highly recommend looking at Project:Don't tout, particularly the section Advertising & SEO. Also be sure to look at our guidelines for Tour listings - your recent edits were removed because they did not comply with our guidelines. In order for a tour to be listed on Wikivoyage, it has to constitute a value-added activity - meaning the average traveler couldn't reasonably fulfill the substance of the tour themselves.

So please look through those pages, and I hope you enjoy using Wikivoyage! If you need any further help contributing, don't hesitate to drop me a message on my talk page. (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 13:10, 23 October 2010 (EDT)


 * Well, the first thing I'd recommend is don't put your tour on the Seattle page - any tours on the Seattle page should be for tours of Seattle (also, I think some of the tours on there now aren't supposed to be there; I have to clean some of those out). Rather, stick to the places where the tour actually takes place (so for instance, Bainbridge Island). Next, when adding the listing, focus on places/things your tour sees that the average traveler can't reasonably access on their own - looking at your website, I'd say that Bainbridge Island electric boat tour would be your best bet: most travelers to the area could easily get a car, bring it on the ferry, and drive around the island themselves. But far fewer travelers have the dough to get their own boat and tour the island. This is what we mean by "value-added activity" - while there are certainly plenty of worthy bus tours out there, we don't list them because to have them all crammed into our guides would just be too messy and turn it into a phonebook, rather than something useful for the traveler. I hope this helps. :) (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 16:14, 23 October 2010 (EDT)


 * I'd add to the above:


 * Adding your tour to multiple articles will run afoul of our Project:Don't tout policy and will be seen as advertising by many editors here. Most people who patrol Special:RecentChanges and see listings for the same company added to multiple articles will revert those additions - Project:Don't tout has the rationale.
 * Our Tour policy is designed to prevent listings for travel agencies, walking tours, "local experts" and other problematic contributions we've seen in the past. It's overly restrictive, but attempts to loosen those restrictions in the past have resulted in a much higher signal-to-noise ratio than was sustainable.  If you run a boat tour of Puget Sound or something similar then you are probably OK under the "traveler cannot complete the tour on their own" portion of that guideline, but if you're listing a tour that a traveler with a decent guide (such as - hopefully - Wikivoyage) could do on their own then it's likely to be reverted.


 * -- (WT-en) Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 19:42, 23 October 2010 (EDT)