User talk:(WT-en) Jmsalmond88

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Once again, please read SEO. An edit such as this one is specifically cited as an example of what NOT to do. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 18:52, 2 June 2010 (EDT)
 * Hi! I just revert all your listings from today. Please see don't tout, listings and welcome, business owners.(WT-en) jan 11:48, 3 June 2010 (EDT)
 * P.S. We have a policy that stipulates only one listing per article, too. Therefore i reverted your new last entry in Portland. (WT-en) jan 11:51, 3 June 2010 (EDT)


 * To expand on what Jan said, we tend to dislike entries added for hotel marketing purposes (as opposed to listings added by travelers), so the site policies are designed to discourage them. The reasoning behind this preference is that it's clear that marketers haven't actually stayed in any of these hotels - you're merely copying information off of brochures or some other source, so the listings are not really any better than a yellow page listing, and in some cases worse since you're likely to paint the business in overly positive light.  To have a better chance of having the listings kept in articles, don't copy & paste the same text to each listing, provide a description of the property that would be useful to a traveler trying to choose between hotels, and include price ranges for the property.  If you have any further questions please review SEO, and if it's not answered there please ask on this talk page. -- (WT-en) Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 12:09, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

Thanks for the clarification. The sites were reverted so that the property doesnt even show up anymore, is there any way to change that?


 * See Project:How to revert a page for information about how to retrieve an old version of a page. -- (WT-en) Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 12:25, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

Thanks.


 * Two things: first, don't just restore the listings that were previously removed - make sure they are updated with useful info. And second, as an example that may help you, have a look at Chicago/Lakeview-North Center which contains several well-written and well-formatted listings. -- (WT-en) Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 12:41, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

Thank You for your help. The reason I reverted the previously removed listings was because it contained the address, phone #, and link to the website in each city which the Oxford Suites resides. I believed this to be useful info. I would like to post these listings with the above stated info. Will I be able to do this without being reverted? Thank you, Joel


 * Please read SEO - there are three specific bullet points (in your case, specifically #2) that clarify what hotel marketers need to do in order for their listings to be kept here. Simply listing address, phone number and web site offers nothing beyond what could be found in a phone book and is thus not particularly valuable for a travel guide, which should aid a traveler in choosing a hotel. -- (WT-en) Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 13:31, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

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 * Thanks for the helpful advice. Please note that these guidelines apply only to hotel marketers - after years of having marketers dump useless listings on our site we got sick of it.  As the policy states, we're willing to clean up after someone who only adds one or two listings, but if you're adding lots of listings then it's up to you to make sure they're useful, otherwise it shouldn't be expected that the volunteers who edit here will have to spend time cleaning them up. -- (WT-en) Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 13:51, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

I apoligize for the previous post that was uncalled for, I will work on putting in valuable info into the multiple listings that I have posted.