Template talk:Itinerary skeleton

Moving this template
For most other kinds of articles, we have a template that can be used to subst into new articles when creating them.... I would like to create one for itineraries, but this is the logical one to use, so that it follows the same consistent naming (, , etc).

It would take a little work (which I'm willing to do), but any objections to moving the current use of this template to Template:IsItinerary? – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 21:54, 6 June 2009 (EDT)


 * This is a good idea. Though there are about 276 pages with this link currently. Let me know if you'd like a second hand at moving them. (WT-en) Bill in STL 00:33, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

replaced
This template has been replaced by PartOfItinerary --Traveler100 (talk) 18:11, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I will add it to vfd. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 19:33, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Did you? I see in Votes for deletion/October 2019 that Template:Itinerary was deleted, but instead, it redirects here. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:08, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I probably missed it, but it’s too long ago for me to remember. I could nominate it now. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 11:15, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm confused. PartOfItinerary is different from this itinerary skeleton. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:35, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Template:Itinerary skeleton
Obsolete according to Traveler100. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 11:16, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep the purpose of that is so that is similar to that of or  . SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:21, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Everyone should look at Votes for deletion/October 2019 and Template talk:Itinerary skeleton for context. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:11, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to understand why this shouldn't be deleted. Please explain, in view of this post in Template talk:Itinerary skeleton:

This template has been replaced by  --Traveler100 (talk) 18:11, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Also, Template:Itinerary was ostensibly deleted 5 October 2019, yet at some point, it was redirected to Template:Itinerary skeleton. I think it can be deleted without further debate. Does anyone want to contest that? Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:29, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Perhaps have a look at the code. The previous code was:


 * This article is an itinerary.


 * The code for itinerary skeleton is:

Itinerary is in Region_name.

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 * In which it is significantly different from what it was in 2019 before it was deleted. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:34, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I think that's an argument to keep Template:Itinerary skeleton and (re?)delete Template:Itinerary? Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:49, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Perhaps have a look at park or smallcity. I can't exactly remember why I created this template back in April, but it is meant to serve a similar purpose to the two I mentioned, where you just enter just like you would for  . SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:54, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, are you saying you recreated the deleted template and someone redirected it? Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:57, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Looking at the page logs, I created it back in April, but it was so long ago that I can't even remember. Also an FYI, but as a test, create a redlink, don't click publish, but have a look at the header. If this template is deleted, it may mess that header. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:00, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, we're talking about Template:Itinerary? If you recreated that as a different template than the one that was voted to be deleted in 2019, it's no longer really the same file. But do we need the redirect? Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:25, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, but then if we delete itinerary, then we'd have to delete smallcity, park, airport and so on. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:34, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That template redirects to Template:Itinerary skeleton. It is not functioning on its own. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:36, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Similarly, templates like park redirect to Template:Park skeleton and so on. None of these shortcuts work on its own. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:39, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, I guess I don't understand quite what changed in 2 years, but if these templates are needed, so be it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:18, 26 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Itinerary was recreated without consensus to undelete, so I have deleted as it had been made a redirect. As for the skeleton template, I’m not fully clear on the rationale for deleting it in 2019, though I realize I ought to know. Is it that itineraries shouldn’t have templates? --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 09:38, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I am totally confused. Why shouldn't itineraries have skeleton templates, and why wouldn't there be a redirect as for the other skeletons? The reason stated in the nomination was "this template is no longer necessary", as replaced by PartOfItinerary. But PartOfItinerary does not have the same functionality as the current Itinerary skeleton to which this was a redirect, and there were two keep votes and no delete vote (the closing admin seemingly leaned on the confused discussion). –LPfi (talk) 09:59, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Finally, I have someone who understands what itinerary was. It just so happened to be that I created a totally different template that just happened to have the name of a template which was deleted some time ago. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:44, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I got it above. I'm not sure why it was deleted during this discussion. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:31, 28 August 2021 (UTC)


 * That I believe, you need to ask on why they deleted it while the discussion is pending. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:59, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

So, mind you consider undeleting itinerary? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:24, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 09:42, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Outcome: Kept. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:49, 8 September 2021 (UTC)