Talk:Zufar

Proposed name change
I'd like rename this page from Zufar to 'Dhofar', as that appears to be the standardized romanization from Arabic. 'Dhofar' is used in all of my travel materials, on maps, and as the primary spelling on Wikipedia (Zufar is listed as an alternative spelling). Thoughts? StellarD (talk) 14:02, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * But locally it is pronounced as Zufar not Dhofar. --Saqib (talk) 14:10, 10 September 2013 (UTC)


 * True. But this is an English, not an Arabic, page. The closest analogy I can give is the Italian city of Venezia: to the Italians it is Venezia, to the Germans it is Venedig, and to English-speakers it is Venice. (I imagine Italians must find it grating to see a German map of Italy…!)


 * The Oman Ministry of Tourism lists the region as 'Dhofar' on its website, so I assume that they endorse 'Dhofar' as the appropriate English romanization. StellarD (talk) 17:55, 10 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I support this. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:42, 10 September 2013 (UTC)


 * To clarify: the Oxford dictionary has an entry for Dhofar, but not for Zufar. Yes, English speakers do not spell or write the name as Arabic speakers do, but this is not the only case of native vs. non-native differences in nomenclature. See for example Munich vs. München, and the English version of the official (German) website.


 * None of my English-language travel resources, including Omani-published materials, refer to the region as Zufar. I fail to see how continuing to use 'Zufar' helps future users of Wikivoyage, who will likely know nothing about these linguistic differences and be confused by the Wikivoyage variant. (I myself was slightly confused when I first discovered the Wikivoyage version).


 * However, I will not change the page name at the risk of offending other more experienced Wikivoyage editors. StellarD (talk) 04:22, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Wait a day if you like, but otherwise, I don't understand why you'd rather have someone else move the page. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:01, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Apologies, I thought a couple other editors were not in agreement on this and wasn't sure it was OK to proceed. Now it seems I cannot move/rename the page because there is a redirection page for 'Dhofar'. I've been trying to edit the redirect page so that Zufar will redirect to Dhofar, and have absolutely no idea what I'm doing. StellarD (talk) 06:04, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Saqib did demur, so that's why I suggested to wait a day. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:05, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry again, I'd just switched the redirections before I saw your latest comment. I'll refrain from making any further changes. StellarD (talk) 06:11, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry if I'm not being clear enough, but I don't think you should worry much. The edits you make are all good. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:22, 11 September 2013 (UTC)