Talk:Trams in Melbourne

Merge with Melbourne?
Does this subject merit its own article? Andrewssi2 (talk) 00:22, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I support merging Andrew. --Saqib (talk) 11:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Not sure. The article does have a fair amount of content and a banner. ϒpsilon (talk) 12:54, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * User:JamesA who's written much of the article, and User:Hshook perhaps would like to comment? --ϒpsilon (talk) 13:10, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm conflicted, because trams in Melbourne are iconic and have history which may be appealing to visitors. On the other hand, quite a lot of the article is encyclopedic (the fleet section especially) and the rest could probably fit into Melbourne or its districts. I would support a merger, or expansion with more information about the actual network. It's a very cute article and I would hate to see it die, but I'm not sure if it fits here as it is. Hshook (talk) 18:30, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Looking back a year later I am not so keen to delete this article :)
 * My main issue was the encyclopedic nature of it, and in its current form belongs more in Wikipedia. But having spent last week in Melbourne and using the trams a lot in the CBD I would say this could be scoped as a travel topic for tram enthusiasts. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 22:40, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Just stopping by, but thought I'd leave my 2c! Of course, as the guide's creator, I oppose merging, but defer to everyone else's judgement. The reason I thought the topic warranted a separate article was that trams aren't simply a mode of transport in Melbourne; they are part of the culture. It is the most extensive tram network in the world. Unfortunately, I never got around to finishing the article, but the intention was to include much more than simply the trams themselves. There is a tramcar restaurant where you can have dinner. There are moving art trams where you can view artworks by a variety of modern artists. Additionally, there are a number of tramway museums which may be of interest to travellers. These are dispersed throughout the metropolitan area, so can't be easily covered in the main Melbourne guide. For example, the world's first electric tram is on display in a museum in Doncaster, and there is a large amount of history at museums in Hawthorn and Bylands. While you could possibly find other places to put all this info, keeping it altogether in one place serves the traveller better and tells an interesting story. James A ▪ talk 10:00, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Welcome back James. Good to see you back after a long break! Look like the topic is exceptional and so I've no strong opposition against having it. I hope at some point, you and others may able to expand it and bring it up to the level it is aimed at. BTW, few years back I found there's a Pakistani tram but wondering if it still in use and are there trams showcasing the bus culture of other countries? --Saqib (talk) 10:42, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey Saqib, only saw this now! The Karachi tram was just for the 2006 Commonwealth Games, so isn't around any more (the tram itself is, just without decorations!) it was just put on display at the tram museum last month! There's been other unique trams over the years, including a Royal Tram when the Queen visited and various art trams that are meant to be moving pieces of public art. Trams are much more than transport in Melbourne! James A ▪ talk 10:05, 26 July 2015 (UTC)