Talk:Swansea/Gower

Should this be moved from Swansea/Gower to Gower Peninsula? ~ 203.144.143.4 00:36, 26 January 2008 (EST)


 * I think so. It's certainly better known as the Gower Peninsula, and the fact that it falls under the administration of Swansea isn't really relevant for travelers. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:13, 16 July 2009 (EDT)


 * The Gower is just a suburb of Swansea and is as much an integral part of the city as Garfield Park or Mount Greenwood are parts of Chicago. The 'centre' of Gower is Swansea City centre, and that is where the train and bus stations are located. In addition, the article actually covers all rural areas of Swansea (as stated in the text), and the title Gower is merely given as this is the more well known part of these areas. Furthermore, to save any confusion, there are links from 'Gower', 'The Gower Peninsular' and 'Gower Penisular' to the page. I'd say leave it as Swansea/Gower, which accords with the general way of listing suburbs on WP. Cheers. (WT-en) Frequenttrekker 23:14, 16 July 2009 (EDT)


 * I go with Frequenttrekker on this one. As I'm sure many people do, I discovered the Gower while visiting Swansea (not vice versa). It is definitely just a suburb of the city. In fact the only thing that distinguishes it from Garfield Park and Mount Greenwood (I guess - I'm not familiar with Chicago) is that it is also defined by geographic as well as administrative boundaries. If we start splitting off all suburbs, then WP will be full of unconnected articles. Anyway, I appreciate your comments Peter and follow your logic, but I still feel the best place to list the Gower is under the Swansea banner. In addition as FT stated, there are a number of links already in place so no one can miss the article. (WT-en) WindHorse 23:44, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

Yes, but now Swansea is a city with only one district, which is odd. In The Hague/Scheveningen and Pattaya/Jomtien, we have fixed this by making two separate articles for them, which is easier to navigate. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 21:25, 3 September 2011 (EDT)


 * Following convention, suburbs are named according to the city where they are located. Other cities such as Boudha/Kathmandu follow this convention. If we begin creating independent articles for all suburbs, the site will soon be a mess. I agree with Windhorse and Frequenttrekker that Gower should be listed under Swansea with a link from Gower Peninsular and Gower. I have consequently reverted to the former title as I believe there is no consensus for change. I hope that is acceptable. (WT-en) Cityskyline 14:16, 9 October 2011 (EDT)


 * By convention, we have separate articles for separate destinations if that makes sense. Just look at The Hague and Scheveningen, and at Pattaya and Jomtien, like I showed before. It's funny you use Bouddha as an example, as that exactly shows what I am talking about: Kathmandu and Boudha are separate articles. While the Gower and Swansea are administratively and politically one municipality, for travellers they are separate destinations with a completely different landscape (urban vs rural). The 'huge city' template is meant for cities with around 7±2 districts, where the main article should give an overview and no separate listings. It is not meant for one city and a separate outlying area. Besides Swansea, there is not one other example on Wikivoyage where a huge city has just one district article. The current situation falls outside of Wikivoyage practice and should be changed. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 14:46, 9 October 2011 (EDT)