Talk:Seattle/Districts

Districts
Seattle has little formal breakdown into districts, but it is very much a city of neighborhoods. Most Seattlites will refer to locations in the city by neighborhood. Here are some that are likely to crop up:


 * Downtown neighborhoods, roughly from south to north along Elliott Bay
 * Sodo
 * Pioneer Square and, to the east:
 * the International District (a.k.a. the I.D., Chinatown)
 * Little Saigon
 * Downtown proper, including Financial District and Pike Place Market
 * Belltown and, to the east:
 * the Denny Regrade
 * Seattle Center (fairground, etc.) and Lower Queen Anne and, to the east:
 * South Lake Union/Cascade
 * The next circle, again roughly south to north
 * Beacon Hill
 * First Hill
 * Capitol Hill
 * Eastlake
 * Queen Anne Hill
 * Other well-known neighborhoods south of the Ship Canal
 * West Seattle, almost a town in its own right, across the Bay
 * Columbia City, southeast in the Rainier Valley
 * Leschi, Madrona, and the Central District (east of First Hill and Capitol Hill)
 * Well-known neighborhoods north of the Ship Canal, west to east
 * Ballard
 * Fremont
 * Wallingford
 * Green Lake (north of Fremont and Wallingford)
 * University District (a.k.a the U. District)

So which of these areas/hoods should be actual articles? IMHO it seems to work best when everything starts on one page until it outgrows the size of one article. Now what's the max size of an article should be is another bucket of worms... As second idea, stick to the second level only, so:


 * Seattle/Downtown
 * Seattle/ -- what would you call the "The next circle, again roughly south to north" ?
 * Seattle/South
 * Seattle/North


 * Just a thought, I like how Philadelphia deals with the city areas, even though there isn't any content in them... (WT-en) Majnoona


 * Gah! You're killing me. Philadelphia needs a total reworking -- completely not MoS. --(WT-en) Evan 01:36, 3 Jan 2004 (EST)


 * Well I like it more than New York (city)/Brooklyn. Anyway, plenty to discuss I guess... that's kinda why I moved the list here. I'll try and pick up the more general issue under Project:Manual of style.(WT-en) Majnoona

Now that the article is bursting at the seams with listings, it's time to break it out into districts. I think the scheme above is pretty good, other than the "next circle" grouping. Although Seattle is merely a big city, not a huge one, it definitely needs to have district articles, and each of those listed above should be. -- (WT-en) Paul Richter 18:31, 29 May 2004 (EDT)

I agree. I think a "huge city article" is more a huge article about a city than an article about a huge city. If we have lots of info on a city, and there's enough info for districts to carry their own articles, then it's a good idea. --(WT-en) Evan 18:40, 29 May 2004 (EDT)

OK, I disagree (and I posted in Talk:Seattle). So far, there's just Capitol Hill broken out and it's really the only district that has enough listings to break out. The main article is around 5,000 words even with Capitol Hill included. Maybe if someone wrote a real Fremont and real U District article I would agree. If I want to go out to a restaurant, yes, I might like to know what's local to me, but I'd really rather be able to quickly scan all the listings for the city than have to navigate into and out of a bunch of nonexistent/stub articles. --(WT-en) DougEngland 3:17, 1 Jun 2004 (PDT)

I'm responding here to the posting in Talk:Seattle which doesn't really address my point. If we had enough listings in separate districts to come up with, say, three separate district articles with content, then maybe it would be worthwhile to follow this loose plan for splitting the article into district articles. However, I think the current split does not improve things; it merely makes the article harder to use to find a good place to eat or drink by hiding the Capitol Hill establishments. I propose that we leave it integrated UNTIL we have plenty of listings in different districts (added bit by bit is fine) to break out worthwhile district articles. It's not like you're stuck in one district when you're looking for food, and it's easier to scan through listings in one page (or printout) than to click through a bunch of pages (or miss printing them out). --(WT-en) DougEngland 00:12am, 3 Jun 2004 (PDT)


 * I broke out the districts because I thought the article was getting too big and cluttered with all those listings, which were almost all Capitol Hill. Incidentally, I am planning to fill out the Fremont and I.D. articles and move those listings there. But, I don't see any problem with copying the listings back to the main article for a while if that makes things easier. -- (WT-en) Paul Richter 04:30, 3 Jun 2004 (EDT)

Also, I should mention that I have rarely heard anyone use "SoDo," especially since the Dome was demolished. It's also not on the Seattle City Clerk's list of neighborhoods. Maybe I'll just go put links to that list, plus better neighborhood maps, in the main article. --(WT-en) DougEngland 00:24am, 3 Jun 2004 (PDT)

Districts II
Moved back over to the main talk page. - (WT-en) Dguillaime 01:27, 2 June 2009 (EDT)