Talk:Romania

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Get in

By Car:

'Traveling by car or coach is the easiest way and a vast majority...'

This article very good written but under the wrong subject. It must come under 'Get around'. Get in means --> how do you travel to Romania, not how is travel in Romania. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 81.243.187.162 (talk • contribs) 25 Dec 2006
 * I'll take a look at it, but feel free to plunge forward and fix it yourself. -- (WT-en) Jonboy 11:39, 25 December 2006 (EST)

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I don't know if romainia is safe for anyone to visit. Last night my brother was bitten so hard thathe is in coma. two people attacked him last night stole his money and bitt them on his head with an iron pipe and was left to die. even the police is not persouing who committed the crime. this is not the first time that has been happening to tourist visiting romainia. I think all other countries specialy europian countries should band people visiting Romainia, then may be then the police and the government start looking into this mega problem. I hope someone do something before more inocent tourist get violated and killed. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 65.9.204.192 (talk • contribs) 27 January 2008

This article sounds like "national tourism promotion". bit of whitewashing, bit of national proud, bit of "good presentation" - but limited use for the traveller.

as this project serves not as a base to promote tourism destinations, i think this article should be re-written with a distant/critical/neutral aproach. it's not the place to tell people, how great romania is, but to tell them what to expect, and what be helpfull in the country.

(refers mainly to the first chapters..)

31/aug/06 nagchampa

CIA factbook import
Did we have CIA factbook stats for this country? I thought it was decided that they would NOT all be deleted, especially the Geography part? (WT-en) KJ 04:04, 16 Sep 2003 (PDT)


 * So, I think this article needs to be whacked on a bit to conform with the

Project:Country article template, but there's a lot of great info in here. -- (WT-en) Evan 12:08, 16 Sep 2003 (PDT)


 * Yeah, sure. I deleted the CIA Factbook so that the article wouldn't be too similar to the Wikipedia article, but I will restore parts of it to conform to the country structure of Wikivoyage - and, new content is on the way! Thanks for telling me about this! -- 203.109.249.138, September 17, 2003


 * Really great content! You might want to look at Switzerland for an example of the factbook stuff to leave or remove. Or both Karen and myself are good at 'weeding' the facts down... but really, great article!(WT-en) Majnoona

The original CIA Factbook 2002 import is now at Talk:Romania/CIA Factbook 2002 import -- (WT-en) Huttite 02:43, 12 Apr 2004 (EDT)

Corruption
To my experience, the corruption problem in Romania is much bigger than stated in this article - sometimes you just bribe coz it's cheaper! for instance, friends of mine using the train bribed the conductor instead of buying a ticket and paid only 2/3 of the amount! Also, stories concerning corrupt policemen (first-hand experienced this as well) are anything but rare! (My last visit to Romania was in spring 2003).

I do not want to insult anyone, but it seemed to me on several visits to Romania that you just bribe everybody... (WT-en) Christoph


 * yes christoph that was probably th case in 2003; things have improved (quite a bit) since then in all areas.


 * bull shit things are worse mr where have you been? may be on dodo planet wake up I advise people to not to visit this country. I had such a bad exprience that i don't want anyone else go through it.So please don't give wronge information to people. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 65.9.204.192 (talk • contribs) 27 January 2008


 * Yes, things have improved significantly in terms of corruption - salaries have gone up, so fewer and fewer people resort to small bribes, especially with the increased penalties. However, it should be clear that bribing is still a quite widespread phenomenon, but rather then the police, it's doctors taking most bribes nowadays. And you can still bribe your way on a train, but, unless you're either a commuter or a large group, it's far harder then it used to be. --(WT-en) Xanthar 03:31, 16 November 2008 (EST)


 * I have heard that in 2006/7, police stopped a bus carrying tourists and harassed them until they coughed up some "foreign" beer (which the tour director had heard about ahead of time and had brought along deliberately for bribes). Ironic when you consider the article's take on drunken driving.

- "foreign beer" as bride? Are you kidding? If money, I would believe it, but not "foreign beer". After all Romania is not Ethiopia :)
 * no way that's true - first, it's more-or-less impossible for the police to actually know who's on the bus and if the bus is a tour bus or a regular passenger bus, even if the bus is not registered in Romania. Second, buses don't get stopped unless there is a really big problem (bus company owners have some "informal" agreements with the police, plus bus drivers will never pay a fine, rather take the ticket to the company that will quickly contest it). And third, beer? Beer is cheap - back then, even a Leffe or some Belgian Trappist beer (those are the most expensive) would have gone for 1.2-1.3€ a bottle, while a can of Stella Artois or Carlsberg or whatever would have been 0.4-0.5 €, if not even less. So, 24 beers would be like 12 €, a stupidly small sum of money, and putting the cans in the police car, that's not really a good idea. --(WT-en) Xanthar 03:31, 16 November 2008 (EST)


 * In a second incident, a specific tourist was singled out. The policeman demanded a $200 "fine" (bribe). This was impossible for that particular tourist and the policeman deliberately spilled coffee on his passport by way of retaliation. (WT-en) Student7 22:56, 11 September 2007 (EDT)


 * This is believable - 200 dollars however was a large bribe to ask, most policemen resorting to such schemes would go for less. I'm wondering if it was a real cop or a fake cop, there was a problem with police impersonators in 2006 (since, the ring has been busted). Strangely, corrupt policemen don't typically target foreigners for bribing purposes - locals are far more knowledgeable in bribe-giving, and the risk for a local is far higher (getting points and your license suspended for a dirty tail lamp or whatever other bizantine rule in the Romanian Driving Code is one example), so the incentives to bribe are also higher. And spilling coffee on a passport? What good/bad does that do? The passport is still good, tearing it up might have been a better retaliation. --(WT-en) Xanthar 03:31, 16 November 2008 (EST)

Credit cards
Visa or Mastercard are very easy to use, the article states that it is "problematic". A huge load of bullshit.

I think it is not o.k. to tell people that something is a "huge load of b..." and to stay anonymous. Personally, I do not think that credit cards are really problematic to use. But in a hotel, although they had a credit card reader and the VISA sign at the front door, they insisted on paying in cash. -- (WT-en) Codica 15:28, 3 Aug 2005 (EDT)

"For locals, since owning a car is still not so common in Romania, ..." That's completely untrue. The average is way above other neighboring countries

Still a Outline ?
It apears to me that the artcile can be qualified as usable now. -(WT-en) anurag 17:07, 31 Jan 2006 (EST)

White shopping experience?
The article says.. "Despite this, all Romanian supermarkets sell products of European quality, and usually make for a very quiet, clean and white shopping experience that can best be likened to duty free shopping in airports at night.' Now what on earth is a "white shopping experience". Are you saying if all shoppers are white people, its a very pleasant experience?

I guess it meant white as in legal and not white as in color. I have never been to romania but that what I feel the line means. -(WT-en) anurag 14:15, 22 April 2006 (EDT) white goods-origin controled grey goods-false origin
 * The phrase "white goods" usually refers to refrigerators, washing machines, etc. In contrast to "brown goods" which include hi-fis, tvs, dvd players. (WT-en) Jnich99 12:09, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Night Life?
Anyone have a notion of the Romanian nightlife? Or how it is like on the coast of the Black Sea Resort towns? Answer: For sure nothing compare to Bulgaria. The Romanian resorts are underdeveloped and very expensive.

Cities list too long
The current "Regions and cities" section does not correspond to our Manual of Style and there are too many cities - we should stick to 9 at most. I'm copying below the current content of that section and leaving on the main article only the regions and a few of the cities I've heard about and which I suppose are some of the most popular. Anybody shoud feel free to change that list but please do not list all cities in Romania - those should go inside the region articles. Thanks. -- (WT-en) Ricardo (Rmx) 13:07, 11 November 2006 (EST)


 * Bucharest (Bucureşti), the capital city
 * Transylvania and its cities and destinations:
 * Sibiu, European Cultural Capital 2007
 * Braşov, Poiana Braşov and Bran Castle
 * Cluj-Napoca
 * Oradea
 * Sighişoara
 * Timişoara
 * Apuseni Mountains and surrounding villages
 * Transylvanian Alps or Carpathian Mountains ski resorts:
 * Azuga
 * Busteni
 * Păltiniş
 * Poiana Braşov
 * Predeal
 * Sinaia
 * Black Sea Coast and its resorts:
 * Constanţa
 * Mamaia
 * Costinesti
 * Eforie
 * Jupiter
 * Mangalia
 * Navodari
 * Neptun
 * Olimp
 * Saturn
 * Vama Veche
 * Venus
 * The Danube Delta and Tulcea
 * Romanian Moldavia:
 * Suceava
 * Iaşi, the main city
 * Piatra Neamţ
 * Galaţi, Danube-side city
 * Gura Humorului, a good starting point for visiting some Monasteries
 * Painted Monasteries
 * Oltenia, and the cities of
 * Craiova
 * Drobeta-Turnu Severin

Traveling VISA
It has said that U.S.A, E.U, etc can stay in Romania for up to 90 days without VISAS. What about Australia? do Australians have to apply for VISA to stay in Romania for over 30 days? 01:18, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

No, they don't have to apply for visas. Starting January 1st 2007 Australians too can stay without a visa in Romania for 90 days. (WT-en) Axi 14:25, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Traveling outside Romania to inside of Romania.
Whats the best way to travel from Berlin to Romania? and the costing, if by train, plane or rental car? thank you.

There is a train going directly from Prague to Brasov, which is at the center of Romania (and allso a very nice Town). Check out http://oebb.at/vip8/oebb/en/ to find connections. Its the homepage of the Austrian Train company. I think that train is the cheapest, since car rentals are payed by rental time and you get to see Prague! 195.190.143.254 07:33, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Been to Romania, most countries can stay up to 90 days. Romania is beautiful, the only thing that bothers me, is the gypsies targeting foreign travelers. There's less gypsies in the countryside though. Other than that, Romania is beautiful. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 121.217.144.2 (talk • contribs) 13 September 2007


 * Romania is beautiful, but I don't think you have been mugged and beaten to death. it happens all over Romania, everyone beware.Untill the police don't take this serious, all tourist are in eminent danger, these murderers hide between cars and they attac you so hard that if you are lucky and stay alive you can not remembe your name. please listen to me and avoid going to Romania. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 65.9.204.192 (talk • contribs) 27 January 2008
 * hey buddy! I have read all your insults to my country and it is time for me to say to you: ENOUGH!! You are portraiting Romania as a sience fiction movie, with criminals waiting at every corner praying for an easy kill... Grow up. It might be that you had an unfortunate event, but this kind of things are happening all over the world in case you are not watching! For your knowledge, nowadays, foreigners can be seen in center of Bucharest walking and enjoying their time peacefully, being treated with respect and oftenlly helped by romanians which you so strongly accuse. May i ask you which country are you from? Then maybe i can collect some information and also characterize your country, but fairly! So please, learn some respect!

"Transactions on the Internet in Romania"
What's the use of the informations in that chapter for a regular tourist ? For now, I will remove the second part, the one about the Bucharest Opera website - that site is obviously problem-free. (WT-en) Axi 10:06, 12 May 2008 (EDT)


 * I removed the whole thing. (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:26, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

Traditional Divisions of Romania
CRISANA IS TRANSYLVANIA

I think that the division of Romania that you make is a nonsense. The Crisana and Maramuresh vwas part of Transylvania from 1100 year, is a nonsense too divide them. Oradea was ever thew gate of Transylvania.I propose to unifie them in a only one name. I ythink is important if some traveller want to understand better their culture.
 * The Principality of Transilvania did not have Crisana and Maramures. Crisana is the old Partium and Maramures is the old voivodship of Maramures, both distinct of Transylvania: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grossfuerstentum_Siebenbuergen_1857.JPG

Anyway, the map is wrong, so I'm going to replace it. --79.116.201.29 16:34, 17 August 2009 (EDT)

the new map is nice, crisana should be a distinct region because it makes sense for the travel to notice the obvious differences between transylvania and crisana.(WT-en) Deni120 15:53, 20 September 2009 (EDT)


 * The map still has a mistake. The region of "Moldavia" is labeled as "Moldova", which is definitely not the same thing. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 17:01, 20 September 2009 (EDT)


 * Fixed. (May require browser refresh to see new image.) --(WT-en) Peter Talk 20:52, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

Other destinations
I removed a wohle bunch of towns which were listed in this section. That left only ski resorts. I have added Carpathian Mountains and Transylvanian Alps. Are there no national parks worthy of a mention?--(WT-en) Burmesedays 08:38, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

New Regions map
Whilst the old regions map was perfectly usable, I have produced a new version in line with Wikivoyage standards. If I have missed anything important or made any errors, please do say so here.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 09:51, 10 May 2010 (EDT)


 * The new map has some issues. Vatra Dornei and Sinaia are swapped. Also, Ploieşti is wrong spelled. 82.137.8.34 20:06, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
 * Thank you for pointing those out. All done and corrected. I am not though spending ages creating place names with diacritics - not necessary for an English language map. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 03:41, 13 June 2011 (EDT)

Get in entry requirements
In case anyone wants to know the source of my edits to include information about the visa exemption for 'Annex II' nationals to work during their 90 day visa-free entry, see this European Union document -. (WT-en) Yeahtravel 09:37, 31 May 2011 (EDT)

Cab fare foreigner ripoff verified
(No new information, just verifying what's already here)

Arrived at Henri Coanda airport an hour ago, took a 3.5 leu/km (listed on the side) cab from the International Terminal taxi queue and rode into the city. The driver had a meter on the seat next to him. When arriving the fare was about twice what it should've been (150 instead of ~70 leu), handwritten on a receipt.

Still cheap in the grand scheme of things so we paid, but it might be useful for others know.

90.231.138.199 15:17, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

Bucovina as a division of Romania
Dividing Bucovina From Moldova(Moldavia in English) on a Romania map is like dividing Bavaria from the rest of Germany on an Europe map. The capital of Moldova(Historic State) was Suceava. I think it would be good for travellers to know that when they visit Suceava, they actually visit the capital of the historic state Moldova. I agree that Bucovina is a distinct part inside Moldova, but I think it should be striped over the orange hatch, so that it can be seen that it is part of Moldova. (WT-en) Nyd 10:07, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

First competition of the Romanian Wikivoyage Project
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