Talk:Rail travel in India

Merge
Is it really necessary to split this out from the main India article? (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:06, 21 December 2006 (EST)


 * And the stuff about future monorails etc belongs on Wikipedia, not here. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:38, 23 December 2006 (EST)


 * There is an article Rail Travel in Europe, so I suppose we should let this one be. and the stuff 'bout future monorails should come. After all, once it's completed, wikivoyagers might use it themselves. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage 08:16, 7 January 2007 (EST)

Vfd?
So, I'm going to nominate this for deletion unless somebody can come up with a compelling argument to the contrary. Right now this has serious overlap with the main India article and looks more like a Wikipedia article on "Trains in India" than an actual guide for travellers. (For the record, I don't much like Rail travel in Europe either, and think Japan is a better model to copy.) (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:28, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

OK, but please MoS-ify and merge into India -- (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 08:25, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

Ok, so now what?
This article has continued to take shape, and looks quite good... BUT... as Jani brought up forever ago, it probably didn't need to be stripped out of the India article in the first place... this is precisely what India is meant to be. If ever there were a candidate for separate article, India's trains would probably make a good case... but I still don't think it's so unmanageably large that it can't fit on the main India page, after trimming a couple of unnecessary fluff sections like "zones", "stations in the metros" and "famous stations". – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 01:18, 13 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Yes! I think this article provides pretty detailed info on the topic and the overlap with the main article has been considerably reduced. Besides, this article has grown pretty large and fitting it into the main article would make the main article even more lengthy and cumbersome than it already is. I'm removing the 'merge' tag from this article. If you decide to replace it, please post here stating your reason for doing so. (WT-en) SBC-YPR 09:09, 14 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Also, this article, being large and complex, meets the criteria for 'exceptions' on the guidelines page. Finally, as Upamanyu has already stated, there is an article on Rail travel in Europe, and others for Canada and North America, so I don't see why there shouldn't be one about rail travel in India. I rest my case. :) (WT-en) SBC-YPR 09:39, 14 July 2008 (EDT)


 * You seemed to have missed the subsequent comments above :)   Firstly, that's not how the merge tag works, quite the opposite actually... it says right on it "do not remove until discussing on talk page", so let's finish discussing first... that notice allows other users to see that there's a discussion and paticipate. Anyway, back to the article... the "large and unruly" policy is for "attractions, sites and events"... we shouldn't necessarily be stripping out sections like "get in" etc into separate articles, those are core parts of a country article. I agree that this is a lot of info, but we've got other countries with large sections, and they work fine... see Japan. I agree with Jani that the Europe one isn't great either... but it's also a slightly different beast in that it covers quite a few countries rather than just one... but I still don't love it, and the fact that it exists is irrelevant to whether or not this one does IMO – (WT-en) cacahuate   talk 23:08, 14 July 2008 (EDT)


 * I vote for keeping it as a separate article. Rail travel in India is complex enough to warrant an article in its own right. Books have been written on the subject!--(WT-en) Wandering 10:19, 7 August 2008 (EDT)


 * The only reason it should be split out from the main India article is if there's too much valid info to fit there, and that isn't the case – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 01:38, 8 August 2008 (EDT)


 * I vote for keeping it to, it's an excellent article, and I sorta feel that it would be a shame stripping the article down again after all the work to make it fit with the main article, would unappreciative of all the hard work put into this. (WT-en) Sertmann 20:08, 5 September 2008 (EDT)


 * A lot of work, yes, but our guides should still be tight, focused, and written well, and this article needs some serious condensing (aside from the issue of where the info belongs). At some point I'll take a stab at it, and we'll assess after it's condensed and rewritten if it really justifies a separate article :) – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 17:48, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Decision time?
Stumbled across this article while browsing the list of documents for merging and can't help but feel it's got a bit lost in the system somewhere - no comments in over 6 months. So... I quite like the article. As it states, India has the world's 3rd largest network, and seems to be a good way of seeing the country. Seems to be a lot of useful informtion out there, and the article is rated as Guide, so it can't be all that bad!

It looks like work has been done over time to improve the article, especially when compared to its state in December 2006 when the merge was first brought up. So can we perhaps say 14 days to generate a consensus and decide once and for all? (WT-en) Nrms 05:29, 2 May 2009 (EDT)

Kathgodam photo
The picture of a train crossing over a large viaduct. This is NOT an Indian Railways train. Looks like Santa Fe freight trains which run in the USA. User:(WT-en) Qmsarge 11:30, 19 January 2007 (IST)


 * It is. Kathgodam, Nainital. A narrow gorge train run by NR.

I took the photo myself. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage 06:01, 19 January 2007 (EST)


 * And a nice photo it is :) I concur, the mountain narrow gauge trains look different than most you see in the rest of the country. Is this a cargo train Upamanyu? (WT-en) Cacahuate 06:30, 19 January 2007 (EST)


 * Yeah, it is probably a freight train. how did you guess?? And you're right, the narrow gauge mountain trains are v different from the standard Broad Guage trains.(WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage 05:10, 21 January 2007 (EST)


 * well, mostly cause it ain't blue! yikes, just got off one this morning, feel like i live on those blue things... anyhoo... take care. (WT-en) ::: Cacahuate 12:34, 21 January 2007 (EST)


 * Actually, the photograph was taken in Canada by David R. Spencer. See WikiPedia:Image:Eastbound over SCB.jpg.  I've removed it and tagged it for deletion as a probable copyvio.  (WT-en) JYolkowski 13:20, 21 January 2007 (EST)

Online booking FAQ
Could someone who has booked online recently come up with a FAQ? I haven't made an online booking ever, so can't do it, but hear that there are numerous issues (where to send the ticket, credit card issues, stand on one leg when pressing a key,...)--(WT-en) Wandering 17:41, 17 October 2007 (EDT)


 * Like it now? :) (WT-en) SBC-YPR 13:59, 12 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Select your bank and give the details of your card (PIN number etc.). It would be nice to add some instructions on how to pay with a VISA card? I don't have a indian bank.


 * I would actually like to condense that whole explanation into a sentence or two, we don't need a step by step, most of that is common sense that you would use when booking any sort of airline ticket, etc online. Paying with credit card is straightfoward, there's an option on the website when you click on payment – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 17:46, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

External link removal

 * Information Articles on Indian Railways

I removed the above link. It seems to just cover info that we would want here at Wikivoyage. Accordingly I believe it should be removed under Project:External links. It was also placed under a newly created "External link" header - which are banned here. -(WT-en) OldPine 08:02, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Status of this article
This article is classed as a Guide. I can't tell by skipping through it how close it is to being appropriate for a Featured Travel Topic nomination. But I'd be interested in your opinion of what should be done before it's nominated. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:55, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This article is another one that I've had my eyes on for FTT for the winter season 2015-16 (though it probably needs a month or two distance from Amritsar or other cities that might possibly get featured). It doesn't look like there's very much needed until it can be featured. 3-5 more pictures is a must. I was looking for Stay safe, but noted that those issues are already (sufficiently?) mentioned in the article, under "General information". ϒpsilon (talk) 11:43, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

First photo on article
The first photo on this article shows the BHOPAL SHATABDI, and claims its the fastest train in India; which is not true anymore as of 2016. The Gatimaan Express (New Delhi-Agra) holds that post now. —The preceding comment was added by 203.99.211.18 (talk • contribs)


 * Thanks for the info. Is it the second-fastest now? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:49, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Unexplained edit
Listen, I have no dog in this fight, but neither this revert nor this edit were explained. How timely are Indian trains? Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:56, 11 June 2020 (UTC)


 * DaGizza, any comments? Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:13, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * That was an accidental revert sorry. Must've been a slip of the fingers (wasn't aware I clicked on revert). I don't believe I'm informed enough to make a general comment on the timeliness of all Indian trains. When I have travelled on them, there were no delays but it's only been a few times.  Gizza ( roam ) 00:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't know, either. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:38, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

PNR websites
It seems websites for checking PNR status are touting here. Do we want to list other sites in addition to the official ones? In that case, I'd appreciate some comment on why, and probably we should list the ones we choose in one place, and otherwise link to the official sites.

An addition of pnrupdate.com was reverted as the editor was touting. We now say you should buy tickets at irctc.co.in and check booking status at pnr-status.info. In another section we say you should check status at indianrail.gov.in. In a third section we say "Checking PNR status through online is the most popular way to check your PNR status. Following are some renowned websites where you can check your PNR status." and link railwayenquiry.net and indianrail.gov.in (said to be the official one).

I hope somebody who knows the system could tidy up the quite long section "Ticketing", and do something about the links to make it easier to differentiate between touting and good edits.

–LPfi (talk) 22:25, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

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