Talk:Philippines/Archive 2006-2010

Taking kidneys?!?
somebody better fix the article at stay safe sections

Some corrections
I added some corrections in the article.61.9.74.230 14:51, 23 September 2006 (EDT) haha, wala lang!!

Manila a safe city?!
I was wondering why Manila is considered one of the safest cities in SE Asia, in the wiki entry? Doesn't Manila and its suburbs have the highest crime rate in the Philippines? For some rates, look at: http://www.bworld.com.ph/Research/economicindicators.php?id=0075

re:we got more police deployed in Manila than our troops fighting in Mindanao —The preceding comment was added by 125.60.243.83 (talk • contribs).

credit card acceptance
Does the Philippines accept credit cards issued by foreign banks? I read somewhere that when a merchant puts up a sign that VISA cards are accepted, it could refer to Philippine-issued VISA cards plus in the Philippines, a merchant's POS is usually provided by a bank (usually Equitable) and the bank's logo is printed on the charge slip. --124.106.134.220 20:29, 6 January 2007 (EST)

RE: What? do you think the Philippines some kind of an african country, of course we accept all major credit card, check and COD. —The preceding comment was added by 125.60.243.83 (talk • contribs).

Age of consent
I did a bit of Googling myself for the age of consent, and there seems to be a fair bit of confusion as to whether it's 12 or 18 &mdash; I wouldn't be surprised if the laws have changed. But even if the legal limit is 12, realistically speaking it's pretty unlikely that a tourist would be able to pass the "no gain, no coercion" test... (WT-en) Jpatokal 00:40, 8 January 2007 (EST)


 * Yeah, I got the numbers while looking browsing WikiPedia:Age of Consent which referred me to Interpol. It's a pretty serious deviation.  And yeah, even if it's 12 the coercion test ain't passable.  But then again, any country which puts the age at 12 must be thinking it's possible for that to happen uncoerced. -- (WT-en) Colin 00:54, 8 January 2007 (EST)

I am just wondeing if colin and your friend are paedos think its a bit sick checking the age of consent then openly debating whether it is 12 or not and sussing out the age of coercian test. I think you will find that most countries have a an objective test which you would both fail


 * That's because you're not paying attention. We aren't discussing how we think things should be.  We are discussing how things are. And that includes reporting that a person's home country may prosecute even when the local country doesn't.  -- (WT-en) Colin 01:32, 3 February 2007 (EST)

Well I am paying attention. Clearly I did not metion "should be" in my comment nor did you and as an english teacher am pretty familiar with the modal verbs. I think you actually stated "but then again..."therefore you are blatently looking into the finer details of the law and any lacunas exist.


 * It's 18. Where ever did you get the idea that it could be 12? (WT-en) Rubybox 01:38, 6 March 2007 (EST)


 * Jpatokal said "I did a bit of Googling... and there seems to be a fair bit of confusion", so I'm guessing it's a common misunderstanding. -- (WT-en) Colin 03:08, 6 March 2007 (EST)


 * I read the article on interpol too. It says everywhere that 18 is the legal age and the age of consent. It mentions that any violators of the child abuse and prostitution act (RA 7610) will be punished for the crime of rape, under the Revised Penal Code Art. 335), if the child involved is 12 and under. Where's the ambiguity in that? (WT-en) Rubybox 03:26, 6 March 2007 (EST)


 * http://www.google.com/search?q=age.of.consent+philippines+12 But the article has now said 18 for several months and this is apparently still correct, so what exactly are you trying to accomplish?  (WT-en) Jpatokal 03:50, 6 March 2007 (EST)


 * What I'm trying to accomplish is to clear up the confusion. It's 18, not 12. And that is exactly what it says on the interpol article, and any other official (read as: from Philippine government) document you would find. (WT-en) Rubybox 04:03, 6 March 2007 (EST)


 * If you're an English teacher, you might want to brush up on your capitalization and spelling. I did not mention "should be" because I wasn't talking about what should be.  Similarly, I didn't mention the average height of Martians since I wasn't talking about the average height of Martians.  Are there any other things you feel I left out merely because I wasn't talking about them? -- (WT-en) Colin 03:08, 6 March 2007 (EST)


 * The Government has made several changes to the age of consent laws in the last 18 months due to International and community concerns. The change that may be of interest to foreign tourists is the updated change to the anti-human trafficking act that now states there is no age of consent for anyone trafficked into prostitution. So under the new laws, everyone is classified as a child if they are trafficked into prostitution. The law advocates terms of life in prison. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Leagleeaglle (talk • contribs).

regions / cities / other destinations
I hacked these sections down since we don't need a link to every destination in the country on the front page. I think just the high-level regions need to be listed (descriptions could be expanded), only 9 cities should be listed, including the capital (per policy), and "other destinations" only needs some highlights. It looks like whoever created most of the articles and regions and sub-regions did a good job of listing everything on those pages too, so I think everything I removed from the Philippines page is still on one of the sub-pages.

We still need to remove 3 more cities to get it down to 9, but I'll leave that to someone who knows the place - for now I just left the 12 that had articles created for them or that I recognized. Same with other destinations, I cut it down to just the ones that had articles created already... but feel free to add/delete if you know better.

Here's the version before I got out the chainsaw, for future reference. (WT-en) ::: Cacahuate 06:44, 25 January 2007 (EST)


 * I like the edit of the Article before than the present one now. :) (WT-en) SnappyHip :D 08:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Travel to Cagayan de Oro
I'm interested in the least expensive way to travel from ~Harrisburg, PA to Cagayan de Oro. I have flexibility of travel times & I can use Phil, Wash, Balt, or even NYC airports. Any suggestions? ---

Region organization
I'm going to revert this section back to an earlier version with simple region delineation and descriptions, as per our geographical hierarchy policy. However, I think that many of the region articles are somewhat undeveloped and could make use of a lot of the short descriptions added (with good intentions) by user (WT-en) Pamexz, so I'm going to stick the superfluous info here on the discussion page, to be moved to individual region articles when someone has time. (WT-en) Texugo 23:47, 7 October 2007 (EDT)

Regions
The three main groups of islands of the Philippines are Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao. Each island group are subdivided into regions and provinces, with its own capital. Below are geographical subdivisions with brief descriptions.

National Capital Region (NCR) - found in the southern part of the island and is where the seat of administration is located. There are no provinces comprising the NCR, only cities. Region 1 - Ilocos Region Region II - Cagayan Valley Region III - Central Luzon Region IVa - Calabarzon Region IVb - Mimaropa Region V - Bicol Region Cordillera Administrative Region Region VI - Western Visayas Region VII - Central Visayas Region VIII - Eastern Visayas
 * Luzon – the northernmost island group, center of government, history and economy and home to the capital
 * Manila City - the country's capital city and home to the President's official residence,  the Malacañang Palace.
 * Quezon City - the country's former capital and is considered the most populous.
 * Caloocan City - where the Bonifacio Monument is located
 * Pasay City
 * Makati City - the country's financial and commercial center
 * Mandaluyong City - location of the EDSA Shrine and several big retail establishments
 * Marikina City - considered as the Shoe Capital of the Philippines
 * Valenzuela City - location of the San Miguel Brewery, producer of San Miguel Beer (the country's most distributed beer)
 * Muntinlupa City - where homes of the rich and famous Filipinos are found
 * Parañaque City - location of the famous Baclaran Church
 * Las Piñas City - home of the world famous Bamboo Organ
 * Malabon City - coastal city in the northern part of NCR
 * Navotas - a fishing municipality
 * Taguig City - a mostly residential city
 * Pateros - famous for its balut or duck's egg delicacy
 * San Juan - a municipality that comes alive during the feast of St. John the Baptist, it's patron
 * Ilocos Norte - capital Laoag City; with rugged coastlines and World Heritage Listed forts
 * Ilocos Sur - capital Vigan City; where cobble stone roads, stone houses, and horse drawn carriage or calesa are still found
 * La Union - capital San Fernando City; beautiful coastlines perfect for scuba diving
 * Pangasinan - capital Lingayen; where the Hundred Islands National Park is located
 * Cagayan - capital Tuguegarao City; spelunking paradise
 * Isabela - capital Ilagan; known as the Rice Granary of the North
 * Nueva Vizcaya - capital Bayombong; full of environmental and outdoor recreations
 * Quirino - capital Cabarroguis
 * Batanes - capital Basco; land of the hardy Ivatans
 * Bulacan - capital Malolos; rich in history and heritage
 * Nueva Ecija - capital Palayan City; known as the Rice Bowl of the Philippines
 * Pampanga - capital San Fernando City; known as the Culinary Center of the Philippines
 * Tarlac - capital Tarlac City; location of vast sugar and rice plantations
 * Zambales - capital Iba; full of black sand beaches and wreck diving sites
 * Bataan - capital Balanga City; site of several World War II markers
 * Aurora - capital Baler; known for pristine beaches and waterfalls
 * Cavite - capital Trece Martires; full of historical sites, including the island of Corregidor
 * Laguna - capital Santa Cruz; famous for its Pagsanjan Falls and Mount Makiling
 * Batangas - capital Batangas City; location of beautiful Anilao beaches and Taal Lake and Volcano
 * Rizal - capital Antipolo City; known as the Cradle of Philippine Art
 * Quezon - capital Lucena City; famous for its Pahiyas Festival
 * Occidental Mindoro - capital Mamburao; home of the Apo Reef National Park, a world-class diving site
 * Oriental Mindoro - capital Calapan City; known for white beaches and coral reefs
 * Romblon - capital Romblon; recognized as the Marble Capital of the Philippines
 * Palawan - capital Puerto Princesa City; site of several wildlife sanctuaries and marine parks
 * Camarines Norte - capital Daet; main producer of coconuts and pineapples
 * Camarines Sur - capital Pili; famous for numerous small islands with beautiful beaches
 * Catanduanes - capital Virac; known for the Puraran surfing spot
 * Masbate - capital Masbate City; location of the Bat-ongan series of caves
 * Sorsogon - capital Sorsogon City; famous for marine resources and whaleshark interactions
 * Albay - capital Legazpi City; location of the Mayon Volcano and the Cagsawa Ruins
 * Abra - capital Bangued; rich in ethnic and cultural heritage
 * Benguet - capital La Trinidad; home of the Kabayan Mummies
 * Kalinga - capital Tabuk; known for whitewater rafting at the Chico River
 * Apayao - capital Kabugao; site of several pristine bodies of water teeming with marine life
 * Mountain Province - capital Bontoc; famous for the Hanging Coffins site and the Sagada Caves
 * Ifugao - capital Lagawe; location of the world-famous Banawe Rice Terraces
 * Visayas – the central island group, heart of the country’s antiquity, nature and biodiversity
 * Capiz - capital Roxas City; known as the Seafood Capital of the Philippines
 * Iloilo - capital Iloilo City; site of several centuries-old churches and houses
 * Negros Occidental - capital Bacolod City; known for several sugar mills and plantations
 * Guimaras - capital Jordan; source of export-quality mangoes
 * Aklan - capital Kalibo; site of the Ati-Atihan Festival and the white beaches of Boracay Island
 * Antique - capital San Jose; full of eco-tourism destinations
 * Bohol - capital Tagbilaran City; location of the world-famous Chocolate Hills
 * Cebu - capital Cebu City; site of the Sinulog Festival and location of several white beaches
 * Negros Oriental - capital Dumaguete City; known for dolphin and whale watching and location of the Apo Island dive site
 * Siquijor - capital Siquijor; the whole island was declared a marine reserve and tourist zone and is rich with folk and lore history
 * Eastern Samar - capital Borongan; the province is abundant with naturan marine resources and beautiful beaches
 * Leyte - capital Tacloban City; site of the Pintados Festival
 * Northern Samar - capital Catarman; famous for whale watching and sea kayaking
 * Samar - capital Catbalogan; location of the Calbiga Cave, with the country's biggest karst formation
 * Southern Leyte - capital Maasin City; location of the Sun-ok Fish Sanctuary
 * Biliran - capital Naval; location of the Tomalistis Falls, source of sweet-tasting water touted with healing power

Region IX - Zamboanga Peninsula Region X - Northern Mindanao Region XI - Davao Region Region XII - Soccsksargen  Region XIII - Caraga Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao
 * Mindanao – the southernmost island group showcase Philippines’ indigenous and rich culture
 * Zamboanga del Norte - capital Dipolog City; known for the Dakak Beach with powdery white sand
 * Zamboanga del Sur - capital Pagadian City; location of beautiful mountain resorts and lakes
 * Zamboanga Sibugay - capital Ipil; known for its seasnake sanctuary and huge oysters
 * Bukidnon - capital Malaybalay City; source of export-quality pineapples
 * Camiguin - capital Mambajao; famous for old ancestral homes and historic churches
 * Misamis Occidental - capital Oroquieta City; source of export-quality seafood
 * Misamis Oriental - capital Cagayan de Oro City; location of several beautiful beaches, caves, and other eco-tourism destinations
 * Lanao del Norte - capital Tubod; site of several festivities, including the Sagayan, Sagingan (Banana), and Alimango (Crab) Festivals
 * Davao del Norte - capital Tagum City; where the Samal Island and several tribal communities is located
 * Davao del Sur - capital Digos City; location of white sand beaches and the Pearl Farm Resort
 * Davao Oriental - capital Mati; this province boasts of several waterfalls and white sand beaches
 * Compostela Valley - capital Nabunturan; plenty of opportunities for mountain climbing, trekking, and spelunking.
 * South Cotabato - capital Koronadal City; home to the highland tribe of T'bolis
 * Cotabato - capital Kidapawan City; location of Mount Apo, the country's highest peak
 * Sultan Kudarat - capital Isulan; site of Kalimudan Festival
 * Saranggani - capital Alabel; site of several archeological excavations and major source of aquaculture products
 * Agusan del Norte - capital Cabadbaran; location of several mountains perfect for climbing and trekking
 * Agusan del Sur - capital Prosperidad; the province boasts of several pristine waterfalls and is the location of the mystic Mt. Magdiwata
 * Surigao del Norte - capital Surigao City; known as the Surfing Capital of the Philippines
 * Surigao del Sur - capital Tandag; has several surfing spots
 * Basilan - capital Isabela City; this province has several pristine waterfalls and beautiful beaches
 * Lanao del Sur - capital Marawi City; home of the Maranao Muslim Tribe
 * Maguindanao - capital Shariff Aguak; location of the P.C. Hill, a historic stone fort
 * Tawi-Tawi - capital Panglima Sugala; this province is home to several exotic wildlife, including wild hogs, wild roosters, and several bird species
 * Sulu - capital Jolo; marine attractions include the Pearl Farm at Marungas Island and the Tubbataha Reef

Cities

 * Manila - the national capital. The Metropolitan Manila area includes several cities and municipalities to form one administrative body governed jointly by the local governments and the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA).


 * Angeles - interesting place with a wild nightlife, wonderful and friendly people.


 * Bacolod - the city of smiles and land of sweet tooths.


 * Baguio - the country's summer capital (cool weather), nice parks and views, home of the "Igorot" peoples, vegetable gardens


 * Batangas - the International Port in South Luzon, beaches, dive-sites, resorts, heritage sites.


 * Cagayan de Oro - known as the City of Golden Friendship, it is popular for whitewater rafting. As the gateway to Northern Mindanao, it is the jump off point to destinations like Camiguin Island and Bukidnon Province.


 * Cebu - also known as the Queen City of the South, Cebu is the first established indigenous settlement discovered by the west in the Philippines. For a short time before the re-dedication of Manila, Cebu City served as the capital of the far eastern territory claimed by Spain.


 * Davao - one of the largest cities in the world in terms of land area. Relatively young when compared with Manila or Cebu, it has grown to become the economic and commercial hub of the southern island of Mindanao. Nearby you'll find the country's tallest mountain (Mount Apo), the endangered Philippine Eagle, and one of priciest orchids in the world, the Waling-waling (Vanda Sanderiana.)


 * Makati City - encompasses the major Central Business District. It is located within the Metro Manila area, and is east of Manila. It is where most of the country's business hubs are situated. It is also ideal for nightlife and shopping.


 * Puerto Princesa - the cleanest and greenest city.


 * Subic - a freeport zone, adventure and sports.


 * Vigan - historic Spanish town and a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

Get around / Safety
Should warnings re: boat travel be moved or duplicated in the stay safe section, or be made sterner? Especially for overnight ferries. I'm mainly thinking about Sulpicio lines, who have an atrocious safety record. (See: the Doña Paz, that collided with an oil tanker, killing an estimated 4000 people, with only a fraction of that number on the official manifest. Also, see last year's Princess of the Stars, that capsized after sailing into a typhoon. How Sulpicio has stuck around despite these is beyond me.)

This is not so much to inspire paranoia, but as a genuine safety warning. While many Filipinos travel by overnight ferry, it is out of necessity -- for tourists it would be MUCH safer to use domestic air travel for long trips, like Manila to Cebu, and supplement it with hydrofoil ferries, like SuperCat.

Should it also be noted that, during typhoon season, it is possible to get rained in if you travel north of Metro Manila? Meaning, the roads leading back to the Metro Manila area may be flooded and impassible, and travel plans should be very flexible as a result. (Subic and Clark aren't much fun if you're stuck indoors, and I've heard it's almost impossible to get up to places like Banaue during typhoon season -- at least, this is why I've never been there.) At least, it should be mentioned that if you're looking for fun and sun during that time of year, the Visayas are a better bet, since they're less effected by the typhoons.

Let me know what you guys think. :)

—The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Tealychee (talk • contribs).

Philippine Map is Wrong
Look at the map, Palawan should be part of Luzon, masbate is part of Mindanao. —The preceding comment was added by 125.60.243.83 (talk • contribs).

Festivals
There is alot of Festivals in the Philippines, I recommend making an article about the festivals in the Philippines. Am I allowed to make one?(WT-en) Snappy Hip
 * Yes make it a travel topic. And please move them from the country article.... see below. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 04:12, 18 January 2010 (EST)

Other destinations
There should be nine other destinations listed. That's it. The sub-sections should be removed. So nine other destinations, not the 20-something plus a fairly useless list of mountains currently shown. Maybe one of our Philippino users can get the ball rolling and suggest here the 9 most important Other destinations?

Get in
This section is completely unwieldy. Needs drastically thinning out. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 09:46, 18 January 2010 (EST)

See and Do
Both look far too long to me. In a country article should these not be a brief summary of the top attractions and activities? Comprehensive lists of festivals and diving locations etc just seem all wrong.

Stay safe
Section was very poorly written and I have cut it to the bare minimum. Needs more. Please tackle this.

Please plunge forward in each of these areas! --(WT-en) Burmesedays 04:12, 18 January 2010 (EST)

Currency
We have a PhP symbol: ₱. If this is commonly used in the country, please use it here instead of PhP.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 09:46, 18 January 2010 (EST)

Here is the list of mountains which was in inappropriately in the Other destinations section.


 * Mt. Apo, Davao City (40km northeast), Digos City is 25km southeast, and Kidapawan City is 20km west (2,954 meters), it is the highest mountain in the country.
 * Mt. Dulang-Dulang (2,938 meters), second highest mountain in the Philippines
 * Mt. Arayat, Pampanga (1,026 meters)
 * Babuyan Claro, Babuyan Islands (843 meters)
 * Mt. Banahaw, Quezon and Laguna (2,158 meters)
 * Mt. Samat, Bataan, this is where Dambana ng Kagitingan or Shrine of Valor is found.
 * Mt. Iraya, Batanes
 * Laguna Caldera
 * Mt. Makiling, Laguna and Batangas (1,090 meters)
 * Mayon Volcano, Albay (2,463), renowned as "perfect cone" because of its almost symmetrically conical shape.
 * Smith Volcano, Babuyan Islands (688 meters)
 * Mt. Panay, Batangas (501 meters)
 * Mt. Patoc (1,865 meters)
 * Mt. Pinatubo, Zambales, Tarlac and Pampanga (1,485 meters)
 * Mt. Kanlaon, Negros Occidental and Negros Oriental (2,435 meters)
 * Mt. Lantoy, Cebu (593 meters)
 * Mahagnap, Leyte (860 meters)
 * Mt. Nailog, Sibuyan Island (789 meters)
 * Taal Volcano, Batangas (400 meters)--(WT-en) Burmesedays 09:49, 18 January 2010 (EST)
 * To be honest, there aren't alot of Filipino users who contribute to the Philippines and Philippine-related articles. The Other Destinations section, 9 destinations should only be listed, but in the China article, the other destinations section appear more than 9 destinations. I can try to re-edit the article. Cheers. (WT-en) SnappyHip, 18 January 2010 17:09, (UTC)


 * China needs work as well and thanks for pointing it out. With local knowledge, it should not be too hard to figure out the 9 most important OD's for the Philippines (bearing in mind, that regional spread is desirable). Please have a go as the article is messy at the moment.

Cities Section
I think that Zamboanga City, Tagbilaran and Cagayan De Oro shouldn't be included in the list, I prefer Subic, Batangas and Puerto Princesa to be added instead.

I prefer this Edit:
 * Manila - the national capital. The Metropolitan Manila area includes several cities and municipalities to form one administrative body governed jointly by the local governments and the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA).


 * Angeles - interesting place with a wild nightlife, wonderful and friendly people.


 * Bacolod - the city of smiles and land of sweet tooths.


 * Baguio - the country's summer capital (cool weather), nice parks and views, home of the "Igorot" peoples, vegetable gardens


 * Batangas - the International Port in South Luzon, beaches, dive-sites, resorts, heritage sites.


 * Cagayan de Oro - known as the City of Golden Friendship, it is popular for whitewater rafting. As the gateway to Northern Mindanao, it is the jump off point to destinations like Camiguin Island and Bukidnon Province.


 * Cebu - also known as the Queen City of the South, Cebu is the first established indigenous settlement discovered by the west in the Philippines. For a short time before the re-dedication of Manila, Cebu City served as the capital of the far eastern territory claimed by Spain.


 * Davao - one of the largest cities in the world in terms of land area. Relatively young when compared with Manila or Cebu, it has grown to become the economic and commercial hub of the southern island of Mindanao. Nearby you'll find the country's tallest mountain (Mount Apo), the endangered Philippine Eagle, and one of priciest orchids in the world, the Waling-waling (Vanda Sanderiana.)


 * Makati City - encompasses the major Central Business District. It is located within the Metro Manila area, and is east of Manila. It is where most of the country's business hubs are situated. It is also ideal for nightlife and shopping.


 * Puerto Princesa - the cleanest and greenest city.


 * Subic - a freeport zone, adventure and sports.


 * Vigan - historic Spanish town and a UNESCO World Heritage Site.(WT-en) SnappyHip, 18 January 2010 18:31(UTC)


 * Two too many, which should we cut? How about Angeles and Makati? They are very both fairly close to Manila, which is bad for the geographic spread and besides they are not really that interesting,  --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 14:04, 18 January 2010 (EST)


 * Fine, let's just stick to the current edit but however Tagbilaran doesn't have an article. (WT-en) SnappyHip, 19 January 2010 09:51 (UTC)


 * It did, just found it and wikilinked it. Any suggestions on how to cut all the "Other Destinations" down to 9? --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 17:24, 18 January 2010 (EST)


 * I don't really know, You can edit it if you wan't to, I don't really mind. (WT-en) SnappyHip 19 January 2010 10:34 (UTC)


 * I'm doing a lot of cleanup work on the article and I noticed that Iloilo is missing. Should we add it in as well? --(WT-en) Sky Harbor 15:26, 1 February 2012 (EST)


 * There are already nine cities; you'll have to remove one. (WT-en) LtPowers 21:59, 1 February 2012 (EST)


 * I was suggesting we make it ten cities instead of nine. --(WT-en) Sky Harbor 15:04, 2 February 2012 (EST)


 * Our rule is to limit these lists to nine; we find that by having a hard-and-fast rule, it helps head off endless "just one more" arguments. (WT-en) LtPowers 19:09, 2 February 2012 (EST)

Iloilo is a worthy addition to the above "must visit" list. However, LtPowers is absolutely correct in his rationale. We would have to have at least 15 at the country level if we added "just one more" and that's just too many. Iloilo is, of course, listed at subordinate levels of our geographical hierarchy. -- A l i c e ✉ 22:18, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Other Destinations
This is the current edit, you guys vote which cities shouldn't be included in the list.

Beaches and Coral reefs
The Philippines is a hidden paradise of coral reefs and white beaches, many not know that it has it.
 * Boracay is 10km island featuring white sands.
 * El Nido has beautiful coral reefs, home to many dugongs, whale sharks, turtles, manta rays and many types of fishes.
 * Camarines Sur has beautiful coral reefs, and shorelines of Black and white sands. Visit the Camarines Sur Watersport complex and go water skiing.
 * Malapascua Island just like other islands in the Philippines, the island features a beautiful white sand shoreline and coral gardens.
 * Negros Island (Negros Occidental & Negros Oriental)
 * Panglao Island aside from white shorelines, it has coralline limestones
 * Port Barton
 * Puerto Galera
 * Sabang

Other

 * Banaue, see the 2000 year old Rice terraces.
 * Coron features rock formations.
 * Donsol is the Whale Shark Capital of the world, dive and see whale sharks.
 * Camiguin has hot springs can be found in the heart of the island.
 * Sagada visit caves, the place is also ideal for hiking and rock climbing.
 * Labo,Camarines Norte, see caves and waterfalls.
 * Tagaytay
 * Tarlac
 * Taytay
 * Iloilo City
 * La Union
 * Legazpi City
 * Ligao City

I only vote for Boracay, El Nido, Camarines Sur, Negros Island, Puerto Galera, Banaue, Coron, Tagaytay, Iloilo City to be included in the list.


 * There should no cities in this list. It is other destinations - beaches, mountains, islands, national parks, monuments etc. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:29, 20 January 2010 (EST)


 * O ok, I'll change some of them like Iloilo City into Panay Island. Thanks for pointing out BTW. -(WT-en) SnappyHip 16:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


 * No problems. WT can be a bit mysterious until you get the hang of things :). A national park would be good by the way. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:42, 20 January 2010 (EST)


 * I would suggest Palawan for its ecological importance and being the home of a UNESCO WHS. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:48, 20 January 2010 (EST)


 * OK, just to note; El Nido is in Palawan, so I will just take El Nido off and add Palawan instead. Is the format for Festivals in the Philippines, alright? Or is it better to follow the format also of Calendar of events and festivals? (WT-en) SnappyHip 04:09, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think you need to worry about that much, travel topics are pretty free form, so do what you are most comfortable with. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 13:04, 21 January 2010 (EST)

Plan
Ok, I think Ligao City, Legazpi City, Iloilo City, Tarlac, Camiguin, Puerto Galera, Panglao, Camarines Norte, Negros Island. Coron and Sagada will be included in the Do section. The reason why I will take these destinations off is because their articles are outline or stubs. Cheers. - (WT-en) SnappyHip 22:13, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * BTW, I think that we should take El Nido and Port Barton off and put Palawan instead because El Nido and Port Barton and also Coron are in Palawan. - (WT-en) SnappyHip 22:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * What do you mean "included in the do section"? No cities should be in this section which is intended for a brief summary of the main activities in the country. Please clarify.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 13:03, 23 January 2010 (EST)


 * The cities and other destinations sections look great now by the way. Well done! --(WT-en) Burmesedays 13:07, 23 January 2010 (EST)


 * Thanks, I mean like; Caving: The Archipelago boast unique cave systems. Waterfalls and rivers, spectacular limestone and crystalline formations are some unique features you might find in the caves of the Philippines. Sagada is one popular destination for caving. Not included in the Do section but mentioned. (WT-en) SnappyHip 02:16, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I now know why Palawan is disputed either if it is part of Luzon or Visayas. It's officially part of Luzon, an Executive Order from the preceding president Gloria Macapagal has ordered Palawan to be part of Visayas however was criticized by many which later was failed to be enacted. (WT-en) SnappyHip 1:11, 10 May 2011 (PHT)

Tribes
I'm wondering, tourists can see tribes, but where will it be in a travel guide? either in the Do section or the See section? - (WT-en) SnappyHip 20:56, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Philippines Map
Palawan isn't part of Visayas anymore but more considered to be part of Southern Luzon. - (WT-en) SnappyHip


 * The key is which makes most sense for a traveller?--(WT-en) Burmesedays 23:33, 6 February 2010 (EST)

To/from Taiwan by boat
I am trying to find out if there is any way of getting from the Philippines to Taiwan by ferry or even as a paying passenger on any kind of commercial boat. I'm very interested in travelling non traditional routes even if it's not very easy. &mdash; (WT-en) Hippietrail 23:43, 4 March 2010 (EST)