Talk:Pemberton (British Columbia)

Where to put listings[edit] QUOTE Hello - thanks for your edits, but please note that listings are generally placed in only one article, for the town in which they are located. Thus if a hotel is located in Pemberton (British Columbia) it should not be listed in Whistler and vice-versa (see Wikivoyage:Where you can stick it and Wikivoyage:Don't tout for the relevant site policies). Hopefully that makes sense, but if you have questions you can ask them on this talk page or on the relevant article's talk page. -- Ryan • (talk) • 05:26, 6 February 2014 (UTC) It makes general sense except that the communities are joined, an intertwined. Both the Pemberton & Whistler Mayors sit on the same regional district: SLRD; Squamish Lillooet Regional District. They belong to the same single Catholic Church Parish. Share the same Police combined Police Force :Whistler Pemberton RCMP Detachment. Share a transit System. The ESPN2 featured Whistler BMX park is the Green River BMX park in Pemberton. All the whistler Helisking spots are in or North of Pemberton.There Helicopters depart from & are based at Pemberton Airport. Whistler Jets Boats is in Pemberton on the Lillooet River. Pemberton is a Whistler bedroom community with travel times equal or shorter than the former Olympic Village Cheakamus Crossing to Whistler Village.

—The preceding comment was added by PemGateway (talk • contribs) 08:43, 6 February 2014‎ (UTC)So you think there is a case for merging the 2 articles into one? If so, please make it at Talk:Pemberton (British_Columbia)... --118.93nzp (talk) 09:24, 6 February 2014 (UTC) END QUOTE

I did not request that they be merged, but I do think you should allow some redundancy because they are inter twined. The purpose I assume of Wikivoyage is to inform all the Holipoli not only for a tiny self selected group of Wikivoyage editors. You need to inform the public that Pemberton is a bedroom community of Whistler and that almost all of Whistlers backcountry activities are in Pemberton & its environs not Whistler proper. With all due respect this 1 placename implied policy is STUPID & does not match the real world - use realpolitik. Sea to Sky exists on Wiki pedia & voyage: yet it includes Squamish, Whistler & Pemberton. Should they all be merged???? I think not. The unincorporated areas in Sea to Sky are in the SLRD,Squamish Lillooet Regional District. This is no different than a town existing in a New England in a County, within a Parish (both meanings: secular & political boundary), within an amalgamated (super) Parish/County, within a State. I understood Wikivoyages purpose was inform the public about the real world as it exists with all its contradictions, not some fake Autistic fantasy world. Reality is messy there are over lapping political jurisdictions and intertwined communities here - as in many places- deal with it!

Vancouver Airport YVR is in Richmond BC and not the City of Vancouver have you removed it from the Vancouver Listings????? —The preceding comment was added by PemGateway (talk • contribs)


 * Geographical hierarchy has a useful explanation of how Wikivoyage articles are arranged; in the example you've cited, Sea to Sky is a parent region with "city" articles for Whistler and Pemberton (British Columbia). It is a sitewide policy that we try to avoid overlap at the lowest levels of the hierarchy - if we have an article about Whistler it should be about Whistler, and it should provide pointers to articles about neighboring towns where needed (as Whistler currently does by providing a pointer to the Pemberton article).  Just as you wouldn't expect a Lonely Planet guide to repeat listings for the same hotel in several sections, Wikivoyage also avoids duplication, otherwise there would be no point in having separate articles and the two would be better off merged into a single article.  Hopefully that makes sense, and if you have suggestions for improvement let's discuss them. -- Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 00:31, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Cleanup
Loads of pictograms had been inserted into this guide, Along With Gratuitous Capitalization. This is a Wikivoyage guide, governed by the Manual of style, not someone's personal guide on their own website, where they can use any format they like. There's also a lot of copy editing that needs to be done. For example, would someone like to clean up the wall of text under "directions" in the listing for Sloquet Hot Springs? Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:06, 20 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Caps in Keyhole Hot springs are literally life & death warning of agressive bears.


 * Caps in Sloquet refer to bear danger too bears will become agressive too if given human food. —The preceding comment was added by PemGateway (talk • contribs)


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 * We do not use capital letters for emphasis on this site. You may use bolding. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:22, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Over elaborate listing
I tidied up the following listing on the article page. Keeping here in case essential details need returning. From my perspective it was completely unreadable. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 23:37, 20 May 2017 (UTC)







How far is too far?
Right now, there are "Sleep" listings 1.5-2 hours' drive from Pemberton. I think that's too far away to list in this guide. Do you agree that these listings cannot be in this guide and should be in another? Why or why not? Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:23, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I think Pemberton is the right spot. It's a long valley and there's really nothing up there (in terms of settlements) except the village of Pemberton and Mount Currie (First Nations reserve). It's part of the reason why I referred to the "wider Pemberton Valley" when I re-wrote the lede, because it's meant to capture the larger area and not just the village. Another reason for the 1.5-2 hr drive is much of the travel is on gravel and sometimes rough (4x4 only) logging roads. Calling the article "Pemberton Valley" would be more geographically accurate, but in my experience (I work with people who go to these hot springs periodically), locals just refer to the whole area as Pemberton. -Shaundd (talk) 02:34, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for explaining that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:34, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Using the "Pemberton Valley" name would avoid a disambiguation, as there's a Pemberton (Western Australia). K7L (talk) 12:38, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, but if the name the traveller is most likely to encounter is "Pemberton", then I don't think we should change the name to avoid a disambiguation. -Shaundd (talk) 05:25, 23 May 2017 (UTC)