Talk:Pangasinan

Towns

Radical changes needed
This article needs more fixes as I saw many problems like long lists of "See", "Do", and "Sleep" listings that should be better placed in their respective articles. I also considering cleaning up the "Municipalities" and change it to "Other destinations" (many municipalities better correspond to Cities), and dividing this province to subregions, where all the less important towns can be better covered as breadcrumbs. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 15:24, 14 December 2018 (UTC)


 * ,, Any ideas to fix this up? The article is all messy and badly written; listings here are better moved to their respective cities and replaced with an overview. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 23:18, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Definitely: the long list of things to see, etc., with no explanation or comment can probably just be removed. It does no good. Ground Zero (talk) 01:07, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I see that this problem was not resolved. I'll move some long lists here later today. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:34, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Long lists from "See", "Eat" and "Sleep" moved here below. For the time being, I have left "Do" and "Buy" alone, but both sections also need some edits.

Churches

 * Nuestra Senora de Manaoag is a large church located in the town of Manaoag. It houses the "Our Lady of Manaoag" which is believed to grant wishes and miracles. Many Filipinos visit the church as pilgrims.
 * Shrine of Senor Divino Tessoro is a shrine located in front of St. Peter and Paul's Parish in the town of Calasiao, Pangasinan. In the inside of the said shrine, there is a statue of Jesus nailed on his cross. It is the second pilgrimage site in the province.
 * Parish of Our Lady of Purification is located in Binmaley Pangasinan.
 * Cathedral of St. John Evangelist is located in Burgos St, Downtown District, Dagupan, Pangasinan.
 * Epiphany of Our Lord Parish Church located in Lingayen.
 * St. Peter and Paul Parish is located in Calasiao.
 * St. Andrew Parish is located in Bugallon.

Museums

 * Lingayen Gulf War Museum in Lingayen
 * Bolinao Museum in Bolinao
 * Binmaley Museum in Binmaley

Other places

 * Antong Falls in Sison
 * Cacupangan Cave in Mabini
 * Mount Balungao in Balungao
 * Manleluag Spring National Park in Mangatarem,Pangasinan
 * Urduja House in Lingayen.
 * Narciso Ramos Sports and Civic Center in Lingayen,Pangasinan.
 * Oceanographic Marine Laboratory in Alaminos
 * Bolo Beach, Telbang, Alaminos, Pangasinan
 * Rock Garden Resort
 * Treasures of Bolinao
 * Coca-Cola Plant in Calasiao
 * Pista'y Dayat (Feast of the Sea) in Lingayen
 * Puto Stalls in Calasiao
 * Lipit Falls in Sta. Maria, San Nicolas, Pangasinan
 * Pinsal Falls in Cacabugaoan, San Nicolas, Pangasinan
 * Waterfalls in Agpay, San Felipe, San Nicolas, Pangasinan
 * Pila Falls in Natividad, Pangasinan
 * Red Arrow Monument, Sta. Maria, San Nicolas, Pangasinan
 * Villa Verde Trail, San Nicolas, Pangasinan
 * Malico, San Nicolas, Pangasinan (Historical Place)
 * Bangus Festival in Dagupan
 * Umbrella Rocks, Agno, Pangasinan
 * Sigay Festival in Binmaley, Pangasinan
 * Bagoong Festival in Lingayen, Pangasinan
 * Patupat Festival in Pozorrubio, Pangasinan
 * Talong Festival in Villasis, Pangasinan
 * Pindang Festival, Mangaldan, Pangasinan
 * Sunflower Maze in Tayug, Pangasinan
 * Darayat Festival in San Fabian, Pangasinan
 * Mango-Bamboo Festival, San Carlos City, Pangasinan
 * Dipalo river of San Quintin Pangasinan
 * Goat festival in (Balungao)
 * Swordrubio in Pozorrubio, Pangasinan
 * Theology Seminary at Brgy. Palapad, San Fabian, Pangasinan

Eat

 * Gibbs Restaurant in Lingayen
 * Uson Pigar-Pigar in Lucao,Dagupan
 * Gibbs Restaurant in Lingayen
 * Uson Pigar-Pigar in Lucao,Dagupan
 * Gibbs Restaurant in Lingayen
 * Uson Pigar-Pigar in Lucao,Dagupan
 * Gibbs Restaurant in Lingayen
 * Uson Pigar-Pigar in Lucao,Dagupan
 * Uson Pigar-Pigar in Lucao,Dagupan

Sleep





 * Lidsong Inn, Tonton Lingayen

Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:47, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Classes of municipalities
"X is a first class municipality"; "Y is a third class municipality"....Does that mean that X has plush seating? Non-Filipino readers will have no idea what this means, I doubt it's important, and I suggest deleting such minutiae, but I'd love to see a counterargument. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:33, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Agree we should be removing that as completely administrative terminology relating to their local revenues. The ledes of articles about Philippine municipalities should normally start with "X is a town/rural municipality/suburb/city/etc.", depending on how travelers would think about the location in question.--TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 20:58, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Speaking of rural municipalities, are there any "rural area" articles about places in the Philippines? If so, there is a new rural area article type that might apply. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 21:44, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, and I've created rural area articles to cover towns or municipalities that are too small to be covered in a single article (e.g. Southwest Pampanga). I'm fine with using "rural municipality" for places designated as such where listings are scattered beyond the town center, but I'm open with using rural area as well.
 * Rural area is just the technical name used in the template, so it's definitely acceptable (and encouraged, if it's local terminology) to use "rural municipality" otherwise. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 21:58, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * TagaSanPedroAko, if you'd like to change the descriptions of the municipalities in the "Cities" section, I'd be much obliged to you, because I'm not personally familiar with them, so I wouldn't know what the best descriptions would be.

Copyright violations in Pangasinan
A number of new users seem to be creating articles in the Pangasinan region with text entirely copied from various sources. With so much copied text, I don't see how these articles can be edited over time without being 'fruit of the poisoned tree' (to contort a phrase), so my instinct is to propose all for deletion.

What is the preferred way to tackle these? Copyright violations of text content does not seem to fall in the listed criteria for speedy deletion. Nominating every page for a discussion on deletion seems excessive given the clear case, but I'm happy to do it if that's considered proper.

Gregsmi11 (talk) 12:54, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Anda_(Pangasinan)
 * Agno
 * Aguilar
 * Asingan
 * Balungao
 * Bani
 * Basista
 * Bautista
 * Bayambang
 * Binalonan
 * Binmaley
 * Bolinao
 * Burgos_(Pangasinan)


 * Copyright violations are a reason for speedy deletion; these may have to be nuked given the nature of these copyvios. -- SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 13:02, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ – I deleted all except Bolinao, where I reverted it to its last copyvio-free revision. I've also given all users warnings. -- SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 13:14, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * You're quick; thank you! Gregsmi11 (talk) 13:24, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * It was definitely another reason for me to stay up until 23:00 :-). -- SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 21:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Copied text just keeps popping up in this region. I've removed text from Manaoag and Mangaldan, and left messages for @DimasalangPH. Now there's new text at Natividad, Mapandan which I've left in place for now and tagged; maybe it'll get noticed this time. Gregsmi11 (talk) 15:17, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I am sorry to say this, but what kind of terrible article is Pangasinan? How can a small region have so many city listings? ... WV is not suppposed to be a database to list each and every city!
 * Also, many city articles say "Known for its agricultural products, including vegetables and rice" or similar or Balungao Hilltop Adventure (touting) ... wtf cares about rice? Probably the whole region can be classified like this.
 * Could we at least remove the listings that have no or bare articles and no tourist relevant mentions?
 * Cheer Ceever (talk) 14:47, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think you should go ahead and do that. Ground Zero (talk) 15:06, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * 🤝 Ceever (talk) 07:35, 6 October 2023 (UTC)