Talk:Northern Europe

Wrong definition?
Northern_Europe includes Scandinavia, but also the UK, Ireland and the Baltic states. Is this redirect accurate?

--Andrewssi2 (talk) 04:09, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I vote No on that: It's not accurate. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:12, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Could we make it a disambiguation page? Baltic states, Nordic Countries and Britain and Ireland ? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 04:20, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Maybe, but what about The Netherlands? They're in Northern Europe but in none of those groups. And is Germany considered a Baltic state? Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:57, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I guess like Scandinavia, the concept of Northern Europe is flexible. A bit like the current Euro crises being between 'southern Europe' and 'northern Europe', when 'northern' means France and Germany.
 * Fairly sure Germany isn't a Baltic state though. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:11, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The Polish city Gdansk (Danzig) used to be a German city during Prussian times until 1919, and is very close to where the Baltic states are now. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Gdańsk is still where it has all been, even if Poland and Germany were shifted westwards in Potsdam. The Euro crisis is between northern Europe and southern Europe with France sitting in between - they may be among the key decision-makers and a large economy, but economically they are stalling and not delivering as Germany, the UK and the Nordic countries do (and, many may say, so do the Baltic states and especially Poland). But for other intents and purposes, the definition of "North" and "South" in Europe is very fluid and I would rather redirect this page to Europe. PrinceGloria (talk) 05:28, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Unless it's clear where the boundary line is, that might be best. But is it that hard to define? I'd say that the Nordic countries, the Baltic countries, Poland, Germany and Benelux are all in Northern Europe. The British Isles are questionable, as some Brits don't consider themselves to be in Europe at all. :-) France is also questionable, as it has coasts on the north, west and south and is also a Mediterranean country. And I suppose some landlocked countries like the Czech Republic and Hungary are questionable. But would you all agree on the Nordic countries, the Baltic countries, Poland, Germany and Benelux (I think it's pointless to try to separate Belgium and Luxembourg from The Netherlands in this kind of discussion)? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:51, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Considering there are still running battles over whether Finland and Iceland belong in Scandinavia, I would also agree this is best avoided :) Redirect to Europe. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 09:36, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Most people will probably place Poland in either Central or Eastern Europe if not prompted otherwise. I believe this is really a very subjective divide, not only depending on the person performing it but also the context. I reiterate my suggestion to avoid trying to determine what is Northern Europe and what is not here, as it doesn't really help the traveller who might run into other concepts thereof and get confused. PrinceGloria (talk) 11:49, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * OK, so be it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Shall we go ahead and redirect Northern Europe to Europe? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:53, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes Andrewssi2 (talk) 08:03, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Done. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:20, 14 August 2015 (UTC)