Talk:New England (New South Wales)

The town names come from http://www.visitnsw.com.au/ - (WT-en) Hypatia 11:45, 16 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Guy Fawkes River National Park closure
This National Park is not listed because as of Apr 2021 it is closed for the foreseeable future due to the 2020 Bushfire, according to the NSW NP website. KevRobbSCO (talk) 10:56, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

New banner
Is wool really that interesting? More specifically, this region isn't even known for its wool in the first place and the banner looks really boring, dull and unrepresentative of this region. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 10:04, 12 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Banner 4, then 3. Ground Zero (talk) 12:13, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 4, 1, and 3 are my favorites, in that order. Thanks for making these. —Granger (talk · contribs) 13:14, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 06:32, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Can we use banner 1 somewhere? I like it even if others prefer #4. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 23:19, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Could be used for Dorrigo which the banner isn't that great and not representative of the waterfall capital of Australia...
 * Also just realised that it's not in New England as well, but it seems someone categorized it under Oxley Wild Rivers National Park. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 06:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Dividing this region up
Have thought about this numerous times, although took me some time to figure out what what actually works as this region has gotten very long with 34 total pages breadcrumbed underneath this region. But this one was one that came up in mind recently. Do note that I've just gathered this off the dynamic map, so if someone with better local knowledge knows better, I'd defer to them (although KevRobb left us after the litter bin dispute)


 * Southern New England


 * Bendemeer (New South Wales) (4)
 * Bingara (5)
 * Gunnedah (13)
 * Manilla (New South Wales) (aka most controversial article of 2021) (16)
 * Nundle (20)
 * Quirindi (21)
 * Tamworth (New South Wales) (22)
 * Walcha (27)
 * Werris Creek (30)
 * Willow Tree (31)


 * Western New England


 * Barraba (3)
 * Boggabilla (6)
 * Boggabri (7)
 * Delungra (9)
 * Gunnedah (13)
 * Moree (New South Wales) (17) Q820167
 * Mungindi (18)
 * Narrabri (19) Q65755732
 * Mount Kaputar National Park (under construction in my userspace for now)
 * Warialda (28)
 * Wee Waa (29)
 * Yetman (32)


 * Q65751741


 * Eastern New England


 * Armidale (1)
 * Ashford (New South Wales) (2)
 * Bundarra (8)
 * Emmaville (New South Wales) (10)
 * Ebor (11)
 * Glen Innes (12)
 * Guyra (14)
 * Inverell (15)
 * Tenterfield (23)
 * Tingha (24)
 * Uralla (25)
 * Urbenville (26)


 * Cathedral Rock National Park
 * Gibraltar Range National Park
 * Washpool National Park
 * Tooloom National Park
 * New England National Park
 * Oxley Wild Rivers National Park

Does this look good? -- SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 11:13, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree that there are too many articles in this region now-- an embarrassment of riches. Wikipedia does not give any useful advice on the subregions of NE, so your proposal is as good as any. Ground Zero (talk) 12:13, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll likely be starting to do the split next week. Don't mind me editing my message above, as I try to get Wikidata mapshapes up. Ignore the Wikidata ids, it's for my personal reference when trying to get the mapshapes on OSM up here as well. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 10:34, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


 * - New England's university city and Australia's highest city
 * - a good base for exploring Kwiambal National Park and Pindari Dam
 * - go birdwatching, enjoy Split Rock Dam and many half-day and full-day trips to natural atrractions
 * - gateway to the road to Port Macquarie
 * - an old gold-mining town, with a touch of art-deco
 * - home of the Wobbly Boot
 * - home of the Drovers Campfire event
 * - a picturesque little town on Thunderbolts Way
 * - a convenient rest stop for east-west travellers
 * - discover its past mining history and scenic attractions
 * - take a picnic by the Ebor Falls
 * - New England's "Highland Capital", and a base for exploring many national parks
 * - known for the poet Dorothea Mackellar "My country" (I love a sunburned country...) and home of AgQuip agricultural expo
 * - a historic little town with a lot to see
 * - the "Sapphire City", with Copeton Dam nearby
 * - renowned for paragliding and Keepit Dam
 * - sometimes referred to as the "capital" of the North West Slopes and Plains, hot water springs, cotton country
 * - a real frontier town
 * - home to the Australia (radio) Telescope and gateway to Mount Kaputar National Park
 * - location of Hanging Rock goldfield and lookout
 * - gateway to the Liverpool Plains and its sunflower fields
 * - Australia's Country Music Capital
 * - famous for the Tenterfield Saddler and the entertainer Peter Allen
 * - a former tin mining town with an interesting history
 * - a sophisticated New England town known for the bushranger Captain Thunderbolt
 * - a scenic gateway to South East Queensland
 * - gateway to the Oxley Wild Rivers National Park
 * - where north-south meets east-west
 * - Australia's Cotton Capital
 * - a historic railway town
 * - the southern gateway to New England
 * - a welcome break for east-west travellers
 * Abandoning my original proposal, but have a new proposal this time, along with a mapshape. Unlike last time where I made up the boundaries myself, this time, I'm using LGAs. Haven't made a defined list, but where each city is on the map – that's which region it's in. Does that work out? SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 05:36, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Didn't mention it in my previous reply. Only issue with this proposal is that Oxley Wild Rivers National Park is under Southern New England on the map, but it's half and half, but the main highlights of the park are in the north (from my experience there). We could of course, move the coordinates up though. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 05:44, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That sounds reasonable. Ground Zero (talk) 11:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Will start this weekend, after I finish the mapshape up for New South Wales. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 11:10, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Now just need to fill in all the articles out. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 07:07, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That looks much better. Good work. Ground Zero (talk) 11:11, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Would have been nice KevRobbAU/SCO could give us their local knowledge, but it's a pity that he left Wikivoyage for something really silly and then going into personal attacks. Anyway, this one is probably the closest that works out. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 11:18, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Abandoning my original proposal, but have a new proposal this time, along with a mapshape. Unlike last time where I made up the boundaries myself, this time, I'm using LGAs. Haven't made a defined list, but where each city is on the map – that's which region it's in. Does that work out? SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 05:36, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Didn't mention it in my previous reply. Only issue with this proposal is that Oxley Wild Rivers National Park is under Southern New England on the map, but it's half and half, but the main highlights of the park are in the north (from my experience there). We could of course, move the coordinates up though. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 05:44, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That sounds reasonable. Ground Zero (talk) 11:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Will start this weekend, after I finish the mapshape up for New South Wales. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 11:10, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Now just need to fill in all the articles out. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 07:07, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That looks much better. Good work. Ground Zero (talk) 11:11, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Would have been nice KevRobbAU/SCO could give us their local knowledge, but it's a pity that he left Wikivoyage for something really silly and then going into personal attacks. Anyway, this one is probably the closest that works out. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 11:18, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Abandoning my original proposal, but have a new proposal this time, along with a mapshape. Unlike last time where I made up the boundaries myself, this time, I'm using LGAs. Haven't made a defined list, but where each city is on the map – that's which region it's in. Does that work out? SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 05:36, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Didn't mention it in my previous reply. Only issue with this proposal is that Oxley Wild Rivers National Park is under Southern New England on the map, but it's half and half, but the main highlights of the park are in the north (from my experience there). We could of course, move the coordinates up though. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 05:44, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That sounds reasonable. Ground Zero (talk) 11:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Will start this weekend, after I finish the mapshape up for New South Wales. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 11:10, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Now just need to fill in all the articles out. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 07:07, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That looks much better. Good work. Ground Zero (talk) 11:11, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Would have been nice KevRobbAU/SCO could give us their local knowledge, but it's a pity that he left Wikivoyage for something really silly and then going into personal attacks. Anyway, this one is probably the closest that works out. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 11:18, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That looks much better. Good work. Ground Zero (talk) 11:11, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Would have been nice KevRobbAU/SCO could give us their local knowledge, but it's a pity that he left Wikivoyage for something really silly and then going into personal attacks. Anyway, this one is probably the closest that works out. SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 11:18, 21 November 2021 (UTC)