Talk:Mustang Island

VFD Discussion

Mustang Island
Created by an IP user and reeks of pcv Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:52, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not so sure this is pcv, though it's certainly not impossible. At any rate, according to our already-existing article on Port Aransas, Mustang Island is a real place, so deleting this article is out of the question. I vote to redirect, either to Port Aransas or South Barrier Coast. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 21:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Fix or expand don't instant delete and discourage. And maybe advise a new user how to constructively contribute. --Traveler100 (talk) 21:50, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Redirected to Mustang Island State Park which was already a red link for the region. --Traveler100 (talk) 07:26, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I undid the above redirect as there was no consensus for what should be done with the nominee. Less than one hour of the prescribed 14-day discussion period had elapsed, during which we only had input from two editors. Please read the relevant policy at the top of this page rather than acting unilaterally. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 10:32, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I'd say that redirect is a good solution. Pashley (talk)
 * Maybe the debate is to whether it should have been nominated for deletion. It is a valid place just debatable its need for a specific article and the current content. I understand waiting 14 days to delete some debated page or content but why wait 14 days to fix a problem? --Traveler100 (talk) 13:29, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by "fix a problem". I didn't delete Mustang Island State Park - the only thing I undid is that Mustang Island doesn't redirect to it anymore - so the redlink on the region article is no longer an issue regardless. But if the "problem" you refer to is the Mustang Island stub itself, in its current VfD'ed state, then the answer is that Wikivoyage uses consensus to determine the best solution to problems like this, which is the entire point of this page and these nominations. If consensus weren't important to this process, then Hobbitschuster might just as well have fixed the problem himself instead of wasting his time nominating it here. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:21, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Real places should be redirected. ϒpsilon (talk) 15:23, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * But where do you think it should be redirected to, Ypsi? I think that's the central question we're trying to answer here. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:27, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe South Barrier Coast? ϒpsilon (talk) 15:32, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * comment; While a redirect is probably fine, I do want to point out that the way this is being handled is quite detrimental to our wishes to expand this community. Slapping a vfd-tag on a new article by a new user within hours, and even suggesting page creation vandalism, for an article that is 1) about a real place that 2) a red link in other articles, should very much be avoided. It would be far more constructive to start a discussion on the talk page and welcome the new user, which no-one did so far. If this had been the way my first (far from perfect but well-intended IP-) edits had been welcomed, I would have been gone for good in a heartbeat. ( Fortunately, it was Ryan who told me I was going about it all wrong, without completely discouraging me - and still it took a while for me to come back after my first attempts, and I still remember the slap on the wrist ;-)) ) If this article is redirected, probably the same should be done for Padre Island, and the links to the article should be changed. JuliasTravels (talk) 16:16, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Julia is quite correct; we need to improve our ways of dealing with new users.
 * As for Padre Island, we currently have that plus Padre Island National Seashore & South Padre Island, none of them with much text. We really need only one article. Pashley (talk) 17:38, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm sorry, I am a serial newbie biter, it would appear. Though the history of the page is decidedly weird... Maybe a copvio from the other side that was reverted? Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:50, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Outcome: Redirected Pashley (talk) 21:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)