Talk:Monterrey

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I am a local, ive been living in this city forever and i know it pretty well. I strongly support Kudos idea to combine the central zones to "Monterrey". We NEVER refer to each zone by Zona Rosa, Garden District (no idea waht this is), etc. And use the names for each zone.

I have no idea how to change things in this article, but for instance, the activities at Río Santa Catarina are no longer available (due to the Tropical Storm "Alex").

The Club Havana is now called Queen, and you are missing some of the best clubs and bars in San Pedro: George, Pepper, Sky Bar of Hotel Habita, Riviera and the Bar of Kitchoan.

The mall- Paseo San Pedro, and Plazas- Plaza Tanarah, Plaza O Dos Vasconcelos and Plaza 401 (beautiful black plaza with 7 restaurants in the third floor, this is the place to go right now if you dont feel like clubbig but you still want to go out for drinks and/or dinner).

Delicious and chic restaurants like Oriental Fusion-Kyo, Chino Latino, Kitchöan, Señor Tanaka. All- Bardot, El Diego, Neuquen. Italian- Silvano's, Francesos, Il Capriccio. Seafood- El Muelle, El Cabo Grill, El Pacífica.

The best Mexican-Nice (Very good mexican food, wide selection "not only "Carne Asada", very nice place) Restaurants: La Felix, La Escondida, La Valentina, La Nacional, La Lupe and La Catarina.

Museums- Marco, Museo de Historia Mexicana. And to visit along the Macroplaza, the Río Santa Lucía (a must for every tourist is the ride in the Santa Lucía River, small boats transport you to and from the Museo de Historia and Parque Fundidora. The ride is beautiful and there are other boats in the river full of a music group singing mexican songs.) and Parque Fundidora.

Districts
Kudos to (WT-en) Texugo for districtifying this article. There really is much too much going on in Monterrey to try tackling everything in a single city article. Some division was really called for. I'm a little troubled though by the complexity of this scheme. I think there's too many zones and some of them strike me as particularly artificial. I like better the map I see in the corresponding wikipedia article. I have three suggestions for districtifying the Monterrey article, ranked in order of importance:


 * I strongly urge combining the central Monterrey zones into a single chunk called "Centro", "Downtown", or simply "Monterrey". This is how it appears in the wikipedia map, and I think it's more natural and more in line with how a visitor views the city. That would mean combining what's now Zona Rosa, Garden District, North Central, and Northwest into one zone.


 * I suggest keeping the zones as is for San Nicolas de los Garza, Apodaca, Escobedo, San Pedro Garza Garcia, and Santa Catarina, though may consider revising the scope definitions of each.


 * I somewhat suggest considering adding Santiago, Garcia, and Juarez, although content will most likely be very light in all of them. (I'm unconvinced that Salinas Victoria should be part of the Monterrey discussion and don't suggest adding that, though am happy to be convinced by others who know the city better than I.)

It might be easier to simply use the wikipedia map as is.

Thoughts? -- (WT-en) Mrkstvns 10:25, 25 April 2008 (CDT)


 * I fully understand your first point, and I also considered trying to keep the central district in one article, BUT there are just too many things there, so I divided it up into three section to prevent having ginormous lists in our see, eat and sleep sections. I can however envision combining northwest and north central together. As for San Nicolas de los Garza, Apodaca, Escobedo, San Pedro Garza Garcia, and Santa Catarina, I just used the official city limits as boundaries. For the third point, I am completely at a loss.(WT-en) Texugo 00:43, 26 April 2008 (EDT)

-- Five years later, I'm still bewildered at the way this article was "districtified". I see three major problems here: 1) There are too many divisions, 2) "districts" bear no relationship to the way locals, local government, and local media refer to parts of the city, 3) all but 2 or 3 of the districts are of little or no interest to 99% of readers.

As I look at the problem with a fresh perspective, I would propose using only 5 meaningful "districts", and doing them in order of importance to a traveler:
 * Centro   -  (to include everything currently labeled as Zona Rosa and Garden District)
 * El Valle -  (to include everything currently labeled as San Nicolas or San Pedro Garza Garcia)
 * City of Monterrey - (to include all of the incorporated city other than El Centro, such as those currently labeled Northwest, South, and North Central)
 * Guadalupe - (to include only the incorporated municipality of Guadalupe)
 * Outlying Municipalities - (to include Apodaca, Escobedo, Santa Catarina, Anahuac, and possibly others)

Thoughts? -- (WT-en) Mrkstvns 12:15, 15 February 2013 (CST)
 * I just redistricted the article, based on the consensus of comments here plus myself, using a division similar to that of Mrkstvns. Ar2332 (talk) 18:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)


 * HUGE kudos to Ar2332!! The districts now make a lot more sense than the ones that were here for so long.  I see a couple of odd things that got moved into the wrong districts, but I'll move 'em as they bug me.  Thanks again....I know that redistrictifying is a huge job! Mrkstvns (talk) 23:41, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I've adjusted the definition of "Centro" to say that the eastern bound is Churubusco instead of Felix U. Gomez. I think this more closely aligns with how the Colonia is defined locally and it makes the Eastern Suburb border closer to the demarcation between Monterrey and San Nicolas. Does this offend anyone? Not jibe with how you see the city? Comments? Mrkstvns (talk) 18:19, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Banner
I have traveled to Monterrey before and there are many different sites that can be used for a banner. The current one does not identify the reason the city is an established touristic destination: the Cerro de la Silla mountains. De88 (talk) 20:15, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

the reason the city is an established touristic destination are the Cerro de la Silla mountains?

Is Mty a touristy destination? The main reason for the tourism are the Cerro de la Silla mountains? Why? It's just a mountain. Mty has more nice things to offer. Flightnavigator (talk) 04:17, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * If you believe something should be changed, please go ahead and change it. This doesn't seem like the kind of change that would be likely for someone to revert, so plunge forward. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:10, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * There are some other sites that could represent Monterrey well (The old furnace smokestacks at Parque Fundidora?), but there are likely NONE that are as iconic as Cerro de la Silla. To a person from Monterrey, the Cerro de la Silla is like the Arch in St. Louis or the Eiffel Tower in Paris.  It simply *IS* an instantly recognized icon that can stand for the whole city. Mrkstvns (talk) 23:52, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Alternative banner for this article?
I created a new alternative banner for this article (I initially created it first and foremost so that it would be used at the top of the parallel article in the Hebrew edition of Wikivoyage, yet I later decided to also suggest that the English Wikivoyage community would consider using it here as well). So, which banner do you prefer having at the top of this article? ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 08:28, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I vote for the picturesque alternative. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:43, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Much nicer alternative. -- WOSlinker (talk) 11:24, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * New one looks better. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 12:00, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Definitely the suggested banner. --Comment by Selfie City  (talk about my contributions ) 14:11, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree, the alternative is much better. —Granger (talk · contribs) 15:12, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * IMO this is one of the easiest, if not the easiest, of the 17 choices that were suggested. --Comment by Selfie City  (talk about my contributions ) 16:11, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. —Granger (talk · contribs) 01:15, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The chosen banner is lame. It's just a landscape with some skyscrapers. Could just as easily be Vegas. A banner that identifies with local traditions or history is more powerful than any landscape can hope to be. We should be able to find something FAR better than this. Mrkstvns (talk) 19:24, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Did you just volunteer to find something? Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:15, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Monterrey districts
As it stands now, none of the articles on districts for the Mexican city of Monterrey are particularly overflowing with content. If I understand the municipal boundaries correctly, only Monterrey/Centro and Monterrey/Outer Monterrey are technically "actually Monterrey", but then we don't have to slavishly follow administrative boundaries. So, what do you think? Hobbitschuster (talk) 06:30, 26 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I've been reviewing the district articles and moving stuff into them and all now have at least enough to be considered "usable" with "centro" having enough that it might be considered "guide" (though it could still use a bit of polish). Take a look and see if you still think there are gaps. Mrkstvns (talk) 19:18, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Buy section
I'd like to clean up the "Buy" section to make it more tightly focused on things of interest and value to a traveler. To that goal, I'd like to completely cut the ATM subsection and the Groceries subsection. I find them to be of dubious value but want to give y'all time to object if you disagree. Mrkstvns (talk) 00:16, 19 October 2022 (UTC)