Talk:Lesser Poland

Historical region
OK, I don't know when this became an article about historical region, I thought it is about a an area placed in our structure between Poland and individual voivodeships. Like Mazovia or Silesia. It shouldn't include cities from other regions, that's just more confusing to travellers. We should drop the "historical" thing, it doesn't work in our geographical structure. Jjtk (talk) 18:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree. It is supposed to be limited to the region indicated on the maps at Poland. This is not supposed to be about the historical region. The map on this page should be removed. Texugo (talk) 19:13, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * But it is nothing else than a historical region. If we drop the "historical" thing, we should drop the entire article, and not fake a nonexistent meaning of the "historical" region. --Alan ffm (talk) 19:29, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * But the maps in Poland is only a completely sourceless and unrealistic fantasy, a unverifiable "regional" fake and nothing more. Or anyone believes all this is wrong -> Administrative divisions of Poland. --Alan ffm (talk) 19:46, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, yes, it's sourceless because it was developed here at Talk:Poland, we needed one more level of geographical hierarchy between the country and voivodeships (according to the 7 ± 2 rule). You can propose new map, new regionalisation or new names for regions at Talk:Poland but let's not start here with historical regions (they are very confusing). Jjtk (talk) 20:00, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * As already stated, the boundaries of the regions are fully self-invented, it is a completely sourceless and unrealistic "regional" fantasy.
 * Repeatedly, please explain with sources what is wrong in this regional division -> Administrative divisions of Poland and where is the sense in the self-inventing of not existing in reality division? --Alan ffm (talk) 20:30, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The point is not whether it is official, it is whether it is useful as a way for the traveller to divide up the country, and consensus determined that it was. It is presumably no less fantasy than a presumed official "Southeast Poland" would be, though that is the only other option I can think of.Texugo (talk) 20:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * What is wrong is that there are 16 voivodeships. Per Geographical_hierarchy and Avoid long lists there should not be a list of more than 9 items. Borders of the regions are not "fully self-invented", they generally follow voivodeship borders. Jjtk (talk) 20:39, 19 February 2013 (UTC)