Talk:Greater Lyon

Rhône VFD discussion
An article on the department containing all of one destination article and two redlinks. Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:41, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. I hate to keep coming up on the opposite side of the argument from you, but Deletion policy is fairly clear that for places like this department, if it really doesn't belong as a standalone article then a redirect (or similar solution) should be the first option, and deletion is basically a last resort.  In this case, if there really isn't a good reason to have this article then redirect it to Rhône-Alpes or whatever is appropriate. -- Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 23:14, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. We have articles for other departments (areas of local government, well recognised on the ground), and I don't think that it is helpful for the reader for this to be a redirect (to Lyon or Rhône-Alpes). The article could be greatly improved by translating the content of the French version of this article. AlasdairW (talk) 23:24, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep. It's part of the hierarchy, and its removal would leave a gap in geographical coverage. Even a redirect to its parent region would leave us with no place to put the destinations this department contains. Powers (talk) 00:47, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Expand or Merge. Some of the Rhône-Alpes sub-regions are sparse of data. Would however be good to have a map of the current region split before making an informed decision. --Traveler100 (talk) 04:31, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I think the regions are simply the departments, which is an administrative division that should be available in map form somewhere. Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:23, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Here's a map: http://www.wineandvinesearch.com/france/rhone_alps_map.png -- I note that administratively, Rhone-Alpes was combined with Auvergne earlier this year, which is a bit awkward for our purposes because they're in different regions of France in our hierarchy. Powers (talk) 20:29, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we should discuss combining them into one region of France in our hierarchy, though I'm guessing the best place for that discussion would be Talk:France. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:08, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I have expanded the article, mainly tahnks to fr:Rhône. AlasdairW (talk) 22:09, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. The fact that this region (which is part of the hierarchy) is currently underdeveloped, is simply no reason for a vfd. If anyone would like to reorganise the relevant region division, they can discuss on the talk page. A simple redirect would not help the traveller in this case. JuliasTravels (talk) 11:23, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per Ikan's & Julia's comments. Pashley (talk) 11:41, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Outcome: Kept. -- Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 15:16, 7 October 2016 (UTC)