Talk:Grand Trunk Road

Deletion?
A recent edit had the summary "removed unlikely claims and improbable map". The unlikely claims were listing Dakha and Chittagong among the cities on the road. I have restored Chittagong since several other sources, and WP say the road does go there. Others have Suragoan as the eastern terminus, though.

It seems worth asking for additional opinions. Pashley (talk) 11:41, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * User:Sminthopsis84 has deleted Chittagong again & for all I know, he or she may be right. I'm not about to edit war here, but I'd like to see a definitive citation. Pashley (talk) 13:00, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is (was) definitely spurious, and the other two sources that you found would be, I think, based on wikipedia. I've just accessed the article Singh, Raghubir and Arden, Harvey (1990) Searching for India: Along the Grand Trunk Road National Geographic Magazine, May 1990, Vol. 177, Issue 5, p.118+ Which gives the eastern-most point as Calcutta, though historically, around 300 BC the eastern part was in Bihar, Pataliputra, and in the 16th century Sher Shah built an extension to Sonargaon, which is near Dhaka, not near Chittagong. There is, unfortunately, a major problem with spurious maps being added to commons.wikimedia.org, and the map that I removed from this page is, I am convinced, one of those vandalism efforts. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:05, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Image removal
I took out this image since it seemed to me the article had too many & this was least interesting. Pashley (talk) 22:48, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Banner change
The banner used in this article depicts a ghat in Varanasi and not a road of any kind. Maybe we should replace it. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 18:18, 26 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Go ahead and propose another banner for our consideration. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:34, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Grand Trunk Road banner.jpg
 * I have just created a banner for the GT Road and it shows not only the road but also some hills that beautify the area. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 05:55, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't support changing to it, because it's dreary while the existing banner is colorful. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:29, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to feel about it. It's clearly more representative of the road, but why is traffic moving on the right side of the road? SHB2000 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta.wikimedia) 08:15, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know, probably the original image is flipped and the traffic is actually moving on the left side. I will flip the banner if the original flip is confirmed. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 09:13, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Grand Trunk Road banner 2.jpg
 * Until the flip is confirmed, I'm pitching for another banner proposal. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 08:22, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I like your second banner proposal. Thanks for making it. SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 08:25, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Compared to the current and previously proposed banners, the newest one is better, but what happened to the banner that depicted a ghat in Varanasi? Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:42, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I just removed it from this article. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 13:54, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You shouldn't remove banners without a consensus. Please restore it now while discussion proceeds. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:26, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Extended vs re-aligned
I fixed what I thought was remarkably clumsy wording:
 * Later Indian rulers, especially the Mughals, did quite a lot of work on upgrading the Kolkata-Kabul part of the road and was later re-aligned it east

I replaced the phrase struck out above with "extended it". For one thing, this fixes a grammatical error; you cannot have the passive was +ed & the direct object it in the same clause. More important, it corrects the semantics.

This was reverted by User:SHB2000 with the edit comment realignment is not the same thing as extension. My reaction is that I know that; that is why I corrected it.

I want to revert the reversion. Does anyone else care to comment? Pashley (talk) 10:40, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Are we just at cross purposes here because we are talking about different things? I'm talking about extending the road east beyond Calcutta. It seems silly to call that re-alignment, but for all I know there was some re-alignment as well. Pashley (talk) 10:57, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * If they extended it, that's what the article should state. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * the original terminus at Howrah (near Kolkata or Calcutta or whatever) was not extended east to Sonargaon in Bangladesh. Instead, what Sher Shah Suri (not a Mughal ruler) did was to change the original route of the GT Road from Howrah-Kabul (or Kolkata-Kabul) to Sonargaon-Kabul by creating a new road from Sasaram. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 14:00, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm now quite busy creating dynamic lines not only for the British-era GT Road from Howrah to Kabul, but also for other highways that correspond to the road, including what Sher Shah Suri did. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 14:05, 19 September 2022 (UTC)