Talk:From Plymouth to Hampton Roads

From Plymouth to Hampton Roads
Per the one year rule for itineraries. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:29, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It would be nice to salvage something from this, but the route is arbitrary, so I think we will have to delete. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:37, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per Ikan Kekek. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 02:45, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per Ikan Kekek. It is a quite arbitrary with too broad a theme. Ground Zero (talk) 21:37, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I am sceptical about this as a travel topic, bit if User:Yvwv is working on it, we should give them time to improve it. Ground Zero (talk) 11:42, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment An arbitrary route makes this a personal itinerary, but it doesn't mean we have to delete it. Would somebody like to follow it if it were made usable? Would defining the route in more detail, improving on Understand and writing a Get in make this de facto usable? To me it seems to involves very much driving, too much for it being worthwhile with the current stops. Or would driving the itinerary be realistic, only some detail were added? –LPfi (talk) 13:24, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That's the point about itineraries. If they are usable, we keep them. If they aren't usable within a year of creation, we don't. We don't keep an itinerary in the hope that someday someone will make it usable. This one has been around for six years. I've made several of the itineraries in this discussion usable because I think they are worth keeping. If you think this is worth keeping, then feel free to improve it. Ground Zero (talk) 13:43, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * What I said was that we don't need to delete an outline, if it has valuable content and there is a feasible path forward. If somebody can see such a path, somebody else can make the needed work – but in this case I don't see it and don't have the knowledge to follow it, and my time is better used on areas I know something about. –LPfi (talk) 15:50, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Then we agree. The discussion period for VfD gives those who believe an article can be made usable the time to do so. If it isn't done, then we should delete or merge, as appropriate, and move on to other work. Ground Zero (talk) 23:09, 22 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. Work is ongoing to expand the article to a historical itinerary. /Yvwv (talk) 11:20, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I will hold my vote to delete in abeyance. What do you plan your topic to be? The Eastern Seaboard of the United States in what period? Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:58, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * As the tour ends at Hampton Roads, it is intended to cover history up to the Civil War. /Yvwv (talk) 00:17, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * OK. It looks like you are turning this into a coherent itinerary. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:58, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Outcome: Kept, as it's been well worked on by Yvwv. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:46, 2 October 2021 (UTC)