Talk:Franconia

As I have just posted on the Wikivoyage_talk:Region_article_template page, I recommend getting rid of the subdivisions of Franconia into Upper, Middle, and Lower. I don't think the Franconia page will get too big to handle without this extra division, and if it ever does, then we can always revert to the subdivision then. Besides, I want to complete some IsIn tags, and I would have to look at a map to work out which subdivision of Franconia each are in, and I am too lazy at the moment. — (WT-en) Brendio 17:05, 30 Jan 2006 (EST)

Regions

 * Upper Franconia (Oberfranken)
 * Middle Franconia (Mittelfranken)
 * Lower Franconia (Unterfranken)

—The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Brendio (talk • contribs) 22:28, 30 January 2006


 * I just removed these from Bavaria as they seem to be redundant, at least for now. They were not mentioned on the Franconia page. Only the Middle Franconia article actually existed (however it had no content); I created the other two, and redirected all three to Franconia. I also set up redirects from Oberfranken, Mittelfranken, and Unterfranken. See also one other edit. Please revert my edits if these sub-regions are urgently needed for some reason - thanks. ~ 203.144.143.4 09:37, 17 January 2008 (EST)


 * I think that with the amount of content in them subdivisons of Franconia are not urgently needed and probably won't be for some time to come, I fear, that excessive subidivisions accomplish nothing but diluting the information on WV and confusing both readers and editors as to where to put or look for specific information. Furthermore from a traveller's point of view those boundaries are "invisible" and not all that relevant141.30.210.129 17:57, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Franconia is more than Bavarian part
This article is ony about Bavaria's part of Franconia. But Franconia is larger:

- some parts of other bavarian administative districts: some places of Eichstätt region (Upper Bavaria) and some of Neumarkt region (Upper Palatinate)

- North eastern Baden-Württemberg: Hohenlohe and Tauberfranken with Crailsheim, Schwäbisch Hall, Bad Mergentheim, Wertheim, Lauda, Tauberbishofsheim (but not Heilbronn)

- Southern Thuringia: Henneberger Land with Meiningen, Hildburghausen, Suhl

- small parts of Hesse: Gersfeld, eastern parts of Rhön, Ulster valley

- sometimes also parts of Vogtland in Saxony (Plauen and surroundings) are regarded as franconian

contrariwise in some parts of Lower Franconia hessian dialect is spoken (Aschaffenburg region)

Should we add these not-bavarian franconian areas?ManfredV (talk) 12:30, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


 * While you are correct that not all places that are culturally Franconian are under the administration of the government in Munich, it would needlessly wreck our regional structure if we made Franconia an extraregion. It's easier to just handle the three administrative subdivisions of the Munich regime here and all other parts of Franconia in the other state articles. I think this article already does mention that "Franconia" as a cultural region is not exactly the same as the region this article covers, which I think is all we can and should do. Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:35, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Ok, but unfortunately we have no articles about South Thuringia/Franconian part of Thuringia, Hohenlohe/Tauberfranken/Franconian part of Baden-Württemberg or about Rhön. Articles about Thuringia, Hesse and (Northern) Baden-Württemberg have only a few or no informations about franconian parts. ManfredV (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Well subdividing Thuringia into regions makes no sense (yet) here on en-WV. If and when we have enough cit articles to justify such a subdivision, we may talk about it. But we try to avoid mostly empty region articles just for the sake of having a region article. Sonneberg is mentioned in both the Thuringia and the Franconia article but we do not have an article about it. Everything else in the Franconian part of Thuringia is probably too tiny. Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:12, 24 February 2017 (UTC)