Talk:Chicago/Lakeview-North Center

Graceland Cemetery
In a very technical sense, the cemetery is actually in Uptown. But from an article writing standpoint does it make sense to keep it here? It seems like this district doesn't have a lot of sights otherwise. Although I think I remember reading that the Eastern entrance from the red line is now closed, so perhaps the main entrance is on the Lakeview side? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 20:38, 3 October 2007 (EDT)


 * bump  Any interest in transplanting the cemetery to here?  --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:14, 13 November 2007 (EST)


 * I moved it from here to Uptown while I was working on the Uptown article. Once I got deep into the literature, I found that it's overwhelmingly considered to be in Uptown, and makes a nice match with the atmosphere/architecture of Uptown. The main entrance is close to Lakeview, but the vast majority of the cemetery itself would be in Uptown. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 21:22, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Bars
The 'Drink' section of this article is suddenly overstuffed. I edited it down to the bars that seem most compelling &mdash; here are the ones that got left out, in case anyone wants to advocate for them over one that remains. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 23:55, 10 May 2009 (EDT)


 * The Dugout Sports Bar and Grill, 950 W. Addison Ave. +1-630-917-5272.  11AM-1AM M-F; 11AM-2AM Sa-Su.  Vampires will like the sunless basement location right under the Addison Red Line stop.  Free peanuts.


 * The Full Shilling Public House, 3724 N. Clark St. +1-773-248-3330. 4PM-2AM M-F, Su; 4PM-3AM Sa.  Irish-themed sports bar known for great weekday food and drink specials.


 * Rockit Bar & Grill, 3700 N. Clark St. +1-773-645-4400.  11:30AM-2AM M-F, 10:30AM-3AM Sa; 10:30AM-2AM Su.  Downtown nightclub impresario Billy Dec’s foray into Wrigleyville opened in May 2009.  Jury is out whether the Cubs denizen will pay $19 for the Rockit Burger.


 * Mullens on Clark, 3527 N. Clark St. +1-773-325-2319.  5PM-2AM M,Tu,Th; 11AM-2AM W,F; 11AM-3AM Sa; 11AM-2AM Su.  Owned by former Chicago police officer Jim Mullen, who was shot and paralyzed in the line of duty.  Also shows Northwestern and Iowa State football games in the fall.


 * Bar Louie, 3545 N. Clark St. +1-773-296-2500.  11AM-2AM Su-F; 11AM-3AM Sa.  One of many in the city.  If you don’t like eating standing up, check out the back room, which often has open tables even when the front is packed (must order food to sit in the back).


 * Blarney Stone, 3424 N. Sheffield Ave. +1-773-348-1078.  5PM-2AM M-F; 11AM-3AM Sa; 11AM-2AM Su.  Family-run institution with fantastic deals on drinks.


 * The Central, 3466 N. Clark St. +1-773-880-2222.


 * Cubby Bear, 1059 W. Addison Ave. +1-773-327-1662.  Open Cubs home games 10AM-2AM M-F; 10AM-3AM Sa; 10AM-2AM Su; otherwise 4PM-2AM M-F; 11AM-3AM Sa; 10AM-2AM Su.  The perfect place to have beer spilled on you. Large bar known for having the largest women’s bathroom in the neighborhood.  Does get a great range of bands at night.


 * Dark Horse Tap and Grille, 3443 N. Sheffield Ave. +1-773-248-400.  4:30PM-2AM M-F; 11AM-3AM Sa; 11AM-2AM Su; open at 11AM for all Cubs home games.  A little off the main drag, this well-stocked bar also shows Michigan Wolverine and Pittsburgh Steelers football games in the fall.


 * Exedus II, 3477 N. Clark St. +1-773-348-3998.  9PM-2AM Su-F; 9PM-3AM Sa.  Reggae.


 * Fiesta Cantina (AKA “El Jardin Dance Bar”), 3407 N. Clark St. +1-773-975-5980.  7PM-2AM M-F; 7PM-3AM Sa.  Perfect place to black out after too many grain alcohol margaritas.


 * Fly Me to the Moon, 3400 N. Clark St. +1-773-528-4033.  5PM-2AM Su-F; 5PM-3AM Sa.  Piano bar that attracts a more mature crowd.  What’s it doing in Wrigleyville?


 * Harry Caray’s Tavern Wrigleyville, 3551 N. Sheffield Ave. +1-773-327-7800. 11AM-close W-F; 10AM-close Sa-Su.  Open at 10AM on game days.  A ball’s throw from the statue of Harry himself, this large two story bar inhabits the former Hi-Tops location.


 * Houndstooth Saloon, 3438 N. Clark St. +1-773-244-1166.  5PM-2AM Su-F; 5PM-3AM Sa; open at 11AM on home day games.  Southern homage to Alabama’s Bear Bryant and all things Roll Tide.  Not sure if Tigers yelling “War Eagle” are allowed in.  Naturally, Alabama football on TV in the fall.


 * Irish Oak, 3511 N. Clark St. +1-773-935-6669.  11AM-2AM Su-F; 11AM-3AM Sa.  Surprisingly authentic Irish food.


 * John Barleycorn, 3524 N. Clark St. +1-773-549-6000.  5PM-2AM W-F; 5PM-3AM Sa; also open 2 hours prior to home games.  Lincoln Park Trixies and their male counterparts will feel right at home.


 * Merkle’s Bar & Grill, 3516 N. Clark St. +1-773-244-1025.  5PM-2AM M-F; 11AM-3AM Sa; 11AM-2AM Su.  Inhabits the former Billy Goat outpost location.  Shows Illini and Iowa Hawkeye Football in the fall.


 * Moe’s Cantina, 3518 N. Clark St. +1-773-549-6000.  5PM-2PMW-F; 5PM-3AM Sa, also open 2 hours prior to home games.  If John Barleycorn opened a Mexican-ish joint…  oh wait, they did.


 * Moxie, 3517 N. Clark St. +1-773-935-6694.  5PM-2AM Tu-F; 5PM-3AM Sa.  Martinis are the specialty if the Cubs faithful need a break from beer.


 * Rebel Bar and Grill, 3462 N. Clark. +1-773-975-2010.  4PM-2AM M-F; 11AM-3AM Sa; 11AM-2AM Su, open at 10AM on game days.


 * Red Ivy, 3525 N. Clark St. +1-773-472-0900.  Cubs games hours 2PM-2AM M (11AM for day games); 11AM-3AM Tu-F; 10AM-3AM Sa; 10AM-2AM Su; Off season 5PM-2AM Tu-Th; 12PM-2AM F; 11AM-3AM Sa; 10AM-2AM Su; closed M-Tu 1/1-3/16.  Also shows Minnesota college football in the fall.


 *  Partner of the Metro (see above), which is next door. Smart Bar features touring DJs and a stable of high-caliber DJs-in-residence.


 * The Stretch Bar & Grill, 3485 N. Clark St. +1-773-755-3980.  4PM-2AM M-Th; 11AM-3AM F-Sa; 11AM-2AM Su; open 2 hours before all home games.  Formerly known as Tryst, this reincarnation since April 2009 serves drinks in mason jars.


 * Uberstein, 3478 N. Clark St. +1-773-883-0300.  3PM-2AM M,W-F; 11AM-2AM Sa-Su.  German beer hall inspired, but much smaller.  Great beers though.


 * The Yard, 3441 N. Sheffield Ave. +1-773-477-9273.  5PM-2AM M-F; 11AM-3AM Sa; 11AM-2AM Su.  Newer spot that serves beer in “yards.”  Beer garden in the back has cabanas that can be reserved in advance.


 * Vines on Clark, 3554 N. Clark St. +1-773-327-8572.  11AM-2AM M-F; 11AM-3AM Sa; 11AM-11PM Su.  This sister to next door’s Cubby Bear inhabits a notoriously cursed location.  The huge outdoor beer garden packs ‘em in on game days though.  Popular spot for the paddy wagon.


 * Casey Moran’s, 3660 N. Clark St. +1-773-755-4444. 10AM-close M-Th day games; 3PM-2AM M-Th night games; 10AM-2AM F; 10AM-3AM Sa; 10AM-2AM Su.  Crowd is better-dressed twenty-somethings who are willing to wait in the perpetual line that forms outside most game days.  Plenty of flat screens to catch every play.

Star?
Following the big addition and subsequent trim/organization of new Wrigleyville drink listings, this article is looking rather like a star to me. I don't know the area well, so I can't really judge completeness, but is there anything else needed here before a nomination (aside from the map update, of course). --(WT-en) Peter Talk 05:42, 20 May 2009 (EDT)


 * I don't believe so. The only area in which it was lacking was the Wrigleyville bar scene, and now that's a strong point. I'm confident the article covers the sights, restaurants, and the other bar scenes comprehensively. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 08:12, 20 May 2009 (EDT)


 * I've updated the map and added a few pictures (of varying quality) to fill out the page a bit. I think it's ready for a nomination. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:28, 13 June 2009 (EDT)


 * Actually, now that I've said that, I realize there is one thing on my mind. It seems like the music venues are split across "do" and "drink." What's the rationale for determining which goes where? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:30, 13 June 2009 (EDT)


 * "Would you go there regardless of whether there was a band you were interested in?" Definitely not for Metro and the Vic; Schuba's is closer, but still on that side of the line. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 17:15, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

Rancid nachos and date rape
Deleted for the second time the snide and inappropriate comment about rancid nachos and date rape. Unneccessary, insulting and just childish. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) User:Allioop (talk • contribs)


 * No, what goes on at the likes of Barleycorn is unnecessary and just childish &mdash; Wikivoyage encourages lively writing, which is what that comment is. You've done a great job identifying the best bars in Wrigleyville, but there are some terrible ones, too. Clark Street isn't all sweetness and Cubs on a Saturday night. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 16:56, 23 May 2009 (EDT)


 * I put in a special request for a restoration of that snide comment, as I hate to see lively writing and blunt criticism whitewashed. FWIW, Wrigleyville is definitely not my scene, but friends and family who enjoy it thought the earlier uncompromisingly critical version was hilarious. TimeOut Chicago liked Wikivoyage's [brutal honesty] as well. Of course, the original version was too critical to last, but I think the compromise version is a good one. A critical point of view (and alas, lively writing of any sort) becomes harder to maintain the more editors we have, but lets lean towards the prose that will keep readers chuckling.  --(WT-en) Peter Talk 17:12, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

Closed listings
The owners have opened a new place in the same location, "44th Ward Dinner Party", but I don't know anything about it. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 17:39, 14 June 2009 (EDT)


 *  It's not very big, but the trendy LBC is comfortable and has a great mid-20's/mid-30's crowd and refreshingly mixed clientele &mdash; gay and straight, black and white, nerds and fashionistas.


 *  Top-of-the-line fresh sushi.

Johnny passed away. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 00:59, 2 March 2010 (EST)


 *  About as far from the Wrigleyville bar scene as you can possibly get; this legendary, straight-outta-1974 tavern is owned by an old man, Johnny, who is well into his eighties. If he chooses to let you in &mdash; after you've rang the doorbell, and waited patiently for admittance &mdash; you'll enjoy cheap Czech beers and a time-warp.

Not technically closed, but not much going on there any more. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 22:52, 14 September 2010 (EDT)


 *  Live Bait is a good venue for small theater companies such as current residents The Artistic Home and solo performers to debut original plays or adaptations &mdash; no bad seats, and reliably interesting shows.

The IWW bookstore has relocated to 2036 W Montrose Ave in Lincoln Square. Their Facebook page has the current address. (WT-en) Eco84 07:46, 19 April 2012 (EDT)


 *  Bookstore for the radical union, the IWW.

Closed. (WT-en) Eco84 19:12, 19 April 2012 (EDT)


 *  New addition to the Southport corridor restaurant scene. Detroit (curses!) based hot dog and Greek diner joint. The countless Michigan transplants are going bonkers.

Closed. (WT-en) Eco84 19:58, 19 April 2012 (EDT)


 *  Not to be confused the beef bowl chain in Japan, but this Matsuya serves good, reliable sushi and tempura platters, and earns points for being an oasis amid the otherwise greasy food near Wrigley.

Closed. (WT-en) Eco84 20:10, 19 April 2012 (EDT)


 *  Fine dining and a fine atmosphere in the midst of Boystown, with a mostly carnivorous French-accented menu. Just an all-around nice place for a good evening with a friend, a date, or anyone visiting Boystown for the first time.

Closed. (WT-en) Eco84 20:15, 19 April 2012 (EDT)


 *  The food is made with love at this great little restaurant, run by a husband and wife. "Casablanca" is the perfect metaphor for the menu here, which surrounds colonial powers like Spanish, French, and Italian food with elements from Moroccan and Mediterranean. It's BYOB, and there's a liquor store across the street.

Was renamed Lina's Chicago Kitchen and separated from the other Leona's restaurants; heard they're now closed, though I haven't been over there and the website is still live. Gorilla Jones (talk) 00:12, 10 December 2014 (UTC)



Chicago/Lakeview-North Center
Now that we have a sufficiently huge amount of 'Drink' listings for every corner of this article (and plenty more in reserve on the Talk page), I believe it's ready for a star. It covers one of Chicago's top attractions, Wrigley Field, as well as several major theaters and music venues. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 17:26, 14 June 2009 (EDT)


 * Support. Looks very solid and it's very fun to read. But now for the nitpicking: Anthropologie and Gaymart don’t have hours; Lincoln Restaurant, Nookie's Tree, The Chicago Diner, and Que Rico! have no prices, the Century Shopping Centre isn't on the map, and I think Digital Network Solutions is labeled as Computer Network Source on the map. Other than that, looks great. (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 18:57, 14 June 2009 (EDT)


 * Thanks for the scrutiny. I've added the hours & prices. I just noticed the Computer Network Source name change today. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 20:28, 14 June 2009 (EDT)


 * Support (surprise, surprise). If I had a problem with the article, I would have brought it up already. And I've updated the map. Great article from our resident ape, and a special thanks to Allison for pushing the drink section to star status. Unrelated, but I had a grand old time at Wrigley last Friday watching the Monopoly Man make a fool of himself. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 01:18, 15 June 2009 (EDT)


 * My, how time does fly. Last call on this one... (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 11:46, 28 June 2009 (EDT)


 * Support I only have one minor quibble - Music Box, shouldn't that read tickets or is that American slang for something? --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 17:54, 1 July 2009 (EDT)


 * "Ticker" is American slang for a heart...so, no, that was just a typo. Thanks for catching it! (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 18:28, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

Alternative banner for this article?
I created a new alternative banner for this article (I initially created it first and foremost so that it would be used at the top of the parallel article in the Hebrew edition of Wikivoyage, yet I later decided to also suggest that the English Wikivoyage community would consider using it here as well). So, which banner do you prefer having at the top of this article? ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 04:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Wrigley Field? Yes, I think so - much more iconic. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:47, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The title will clash more with the Wrigley Field sign than it does with the flag now. Both are nice banners, the current one quite brilliant, but the placing of the rather long title has not been considered when making either, apparently. PrinceGloria (talk) 15:22, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I made that banner for the Hebrew Wikivoyage where the title goes on the other side. Either way, following your comment I made a new banner in which the title does not clash with the Wrigley Field sign. Do you like this one better ? ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 15:37, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * It is possibly the best you could do with the picture at hand, but I still find the effect clumsy - not that I don't appreciate your work, it is simply that this picture won't work as a banner here. PrinceGloria (talk) 16:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * So you still prefer the old banner over this option? ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 16:20, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I guess I would PrinceGloria (talk) 16:54, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Never been to this part of Chicago, but I like the current banner better. It's more interesting to look at. Danapit (talk) 17:58, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the problem with the proposed banner is that once you add the title and ToC, the eye gets drawn away from the Wrigley Field sign and to the traffic light, which isn't very aesthetically pleasing. Definitely prefer the current one. PerryPlanet (talk) 22:06, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Current Syced (talk) 08:06, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Alternative banner for this article? - second attempt


CC userd whom participated in the previous discussion: PrinceGloria, PerryPlanet, Syced, Ikan Kekek, Danapit ויקיג&#39;אנקי (talk) 10:35, 27 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I support a change. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:49, 27 May 2018 (UTC)