Talk:Bangor (Washington)

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Bangor (Washington)

 * Delete. Bangor is a closed military base, not a city of its own, and cannot be visited.  It certainly fails the "can you sleep there" test for everyone but military personnel on orders.  -- (WT-en) D. Guillaime 12:26, 8 February 2012 (EST)
 * It's too bad; it's a nice little article. =(  It sounds like military families might have reason to visit, is there any way we can justify keeping it?  (WT-en) LtPowers 21:52, 8 February 2012 (EST)
 * Delete. The description reads like every U.S. Navy base anywhere. Of course there's a Navy Exchange, a commissary, and several fast food chains. Most of the article's real content is just a description of how to get in and around. And as pointed out, it is only relevant to Navy personnel and families. -- (WT-en) BigPeteB 09:35, 10 February 2012 (EST)
 * Keep. There is no justification for deleting it. We have articles on other military-only areas such as Wake Island and on areas such as Mecca where travel is restricted to Muslims. (WT-en) Pashley 20:18, 12 February 2012 (EST)
 * See also Project:Votes_for_deletion/September_2007 and Wikivoyage_talk:Votes_for_deletion (WT-en) Pashley 20:23, 12 February 2012 (EST)
 * I wouldn't consider a military base equivalent to a good-sized island or city. It's like giving a college campus its own article -- even if it were open to the public, I don't think it would pass the wiaa criteria.  -- (WT-en) D. Guillaime 21:52, 21 February 2012 (EST)
 * Keep-ish. I don't know this base well enough to understand if it's large enough to warrant an article (if not change my vote to a merge), but the point has been made in the past that some Wikivoyage articles might have a smaller, more specific audience than normal travel books, and that audience might include service members, scientific expeditions, or just people who want to read about a place they can't actually go to in person - see Wake Island for one existing example.  If this base really is a small town that is open to military personnel only then it probably doesn't hurt to keep it around. -- (WT-en) Ryan &bull; (talk) &bull; 12:28, 25 March 2012 (EDT)


 * Redirect On Wikivoyage policy grounds I think Bangor lacks what it takes to be an article. If you washed up at Wake Island and said "Hi, I'm not sure I Understand what made me Get in here but I'd like a somewhere to Sleep and something to Eat (subsection Budget)", there's a chance you'd surprise the military personnel (or appeal to their compassion) enough to get them. At Bangor, they'd just say "Sod off to Poulsbo".


 * I agree with D. Guillaime in that Bangor has as much interest as a college campus, which I guess makes it worth mentioning breifly. The presence of a TRIDENT submarine base may be interesting to note in the Kitsap Peninsula article but "submarine spotting" would be an individual "Do" entry rather than needing a whole article. The what is an article? policy states that information about attractions, sites, and events should always be initially placed into the article for the place they're located in, and only when that information becomes large and complex should a new article be considered, which is how I think the base should be categorized.


 * On a practical note: anyone with business on the base will be unlikely looking to Wikivoyage for help to get around the base and anyone looking at Wikivoyage will be unlikely to find the article useful or interesting. Wake Island is wierd and quirky and hence interesting. There's nothing particularly notable about a run of the mill navel base. Even | Kitsap's own tourism website can't manage anything helpful to say about the base from a tourism perspective.(WT-en) Travelpleb 06:03, 1 April 2012 (EDT)


 * This one is a more tough call than usual between keep and redirect (but it definitely should be redirected, rather than deleted). I'll hop off the fence to help close the entry, though, and go redirect per Travelpleb. It looks like the bigger problem here, though, is that Kitsap Peninsula is heavily over divided into little hamlets, which would be better amalgamated into bottom-level region articles. This makes it harder to see where to where this content should be merged and/or redirected. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 11:37, 10 April 2012 (EDT)


 * I said keep above, but I'd be happy with a redirect as well. (WT-en) Pashley 21:07, 14 April 2012 (EDT)


 * I'm going to Redirect this to Kitsap Peninsula and add a couple of lines in that article about it unless there's any objections. I'll leave sorting out the regional hierarchy to someone who knows that part of the world. (WT-en) Travelpleb 07:06, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
 * Kitsap Peninsula now has this line in its list of cities:


 * Bangor -- an off-limits naval base 4 miles west of Poulsbo, home to submarines equipped with Trident missiles


 * (WT-en) Travelpleb 23:38, 5 May 2012 (EDT)