Talk:Bahia

Regions
A bit of a problem with the regionification scheme for this state - the regions are based on official tourism regions, but as you can see from the map below, they do not cover the entire state, and thus are unsuitable for top level regions:

So... We can perhaps use the some of above as second-level regions if necessary, but for the top-level regions, I think it would be better to use the official "mesoregions", as shown in the second map:

If nobody has any objections, I'm soon going to make this change, and hopefully adapt that map to make a wikivoyage-style map. Anyone have any comments? Texugo (talk) 00:54, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * OK. I have plunged forward here. I went ahead and put the second map in the article as well, so we have something at least. Perhaps I will have time to adapt it into a WV-style map one day soon.Texugo (talk) 18:01, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe the South littoral should be subdivided as the familiar "Coasts" that are already in use touristically; but it's not crucial or urgent at this moment IMHO. 200.252.135.74 21:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about that too, dividing, not at the top level, but subdividing the South section, but, I don't know what to do with those areas which are not actually on the coast. Would it actually make sense to extend Whale Coast, etc. (see first map above) all the way across to the western border, including those other towns that are not even on the coast? Texugo (talk) 21:56, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it's best to leave those inner cities at the upper South article. Not many of them have much touristic importance anyway. (200.252...)
 * I'm not sure that it jives well with our typical subdivision scheme to subdivide some parts and leaves the rest under the parent article. At any rate, I did leave the 4 southern coast articles as redirects to South (Bahia), with the coast destination grouped under the 4 headings. I suppose that is probably good enough for now. Texugo (talk) 00:38, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

"Sleep" listings
It's obviously inappropriate to have any specific listings at the statewide level, but just in case these aren't listed in some other article and merit moving there, here goes:

Mid-range
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 * name=Bahia Beach house Rentals | url=http://www.bahiabeach.net | email=info@bahiabeach.net
 * address=Atelier do Sobrado Rua Guedes Cabral, 184 Rio Vermelho Salvador -Ba 41950-620 | lat= | long= | directions=
 * phone=+55 71 9619-2635 | tollfree= | fax=
 * hours= | price=
 * checkin= | checkout=
 * content= Beach houses for rent on the coast, from the Whalecoast to the Coconut coast.
 * content= Beach houses for rent on the coast, from the Whalecoast to the Coconut coast.

Regions again
Since the region articles were created (prematurely) ten years ago, there has been little progress on filling them in. Here are the articles we have for each region now: Would it make sense to combine Far West, SF Valley, Central North and Northeast into a "Northern Bahia" region? Ground Zero (talk) 18:28, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Far West -- 0 articles
 * São Francisco Valley -- 2 articles
 * Central South -- 6 articles
 * South -- 17 articles
 * Central North -- 1 articles
 * Northeast -- 1 articles
 * Grande Salvador -- 5 articles
 * I guess it would make more sense to divide "seacoast" and "interior", but this proposed scheme makes sense, too. Ibaman (talk) 18:45, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Would it be better to attach Northeast (1 article) to Grande Salvador (5 articles), and then call the Far West, SF Valley, Central North combination "Bahia Interior"? Ground Zero (talk) 21:02, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * the gist here is like that: Bahia is the oldest,most traditional and popular Brazilian state as a touristic destination, and the current subdivision makes total geographic and road-wise sense; it's really the most adequate. If we had a "Bahia expedition" or something similar here, these combinations would HAVE to be reversed. This must be mentioned. Ibaman (talk) 21:12, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm fine with anything that both of you propose that reduces the ridiculous number of subregions that currently stands. -- SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 21:37, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * In response to Ibaman's comment, I note that Far West was created 10 years ago, and it still has no articles. When I merge regions, I redirect the merged region articles and comment out the text so that it can get easily restored.
 * Our policy for creating new regions is that we do it when there is a need to do so, i.e., when a region article is becoming too big. We do not create region articles in the hope that some day someone will populate it with information and articles.
 * Geographical hierarchy says: we only add a level of regions when there is too much content in the existing breakdown. As a result, the regional hierarchy at Wikivoyage doesn't always follow the official breakdown — and frequently is much "flatter" than the official political or administrative breakdown.
 * Many Brazilian region articles were created in violation of this policy. Ten years of nothing happening here shows us why the policy is sensible. As you know, I have been trying to populate Brazilian region articles with information so that they are useful for teavellers, but there is a limit to what I can do on my own. Ground Zero (talk) 15:47, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


 * yeah, well, fair enough, "Bahia Interior" / "Grande Salvador" / "South Coast" will work, too. Ibaman (talk) 16:17, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Should Central South (6 articles) be part of Bahia Interior, or remain as a separate subregion? Ground Zero (talk) 11:49, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * because of Chapada Diamantina National Park, it's slightly, infinitesimally better to make it separate, IMHO. Ibaman (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

I have combined Far West, SF Valley, Central North and Northeast into a "Bahia Interior" region. When you have time, would you be able to update the static map? Thanks, Ground Zero (talk) 18:40, 11 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi,, sure thing. I've been busy IRL now, but I'll be able to update the static map sometime in the next few weeks (sorry for the very late delay). -- SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 21:39, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 12:24, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I just realised I completely messed up this map and merged Central South instead of Northeast. Well, that's a bummer... (I'll restart this tomorrow or maybe Sunday, time permitting). Sorry about that. -- SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 12:26, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * My Inkscape now doesn't work (i.e. it freezes every time I try to do some modification) :-(. I will investigate into this and see what I can do. Sorry for the even longer wait. -- SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 06:41, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Since I cannot do this change (for now), any chance you'd be able to make the changes proposed by . -- SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 07:21, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi SHB2000, do you still need me to help out on this? I can probably work on it over the next few days. -Shaundd (talk) 01:20, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, please :-). -- SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 06:23, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries, I'm busy today but should be able to get it done tomorrow. -Shaundd (talk) 18:04, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks – I wouldn't be able to finish this before at least next week, had I gotten my Inkscape fixed. SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 08:12, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The first cut of the new map up. I'll make some further changes (the cities and other destinations don't match what's in the guide) in the coming days. -Shaundd (talk) 04:31, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Updated map with cities and other destinations that match the guide is up -Shaundd (talk) 01:51, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you very much for creating the new map. It looks great. Ground Zero (talk) 10:52, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm late, but thank you, Shaundd! Sorry for the late response – I've been a lot busier IRL and haven't had as much time to check in with Wikimedia lately. SHB2000  (talk &#124; contribs &#124; meta) 11:11, 13 November 2023 (UTC)